Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Warp is now open-source

github.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

91–100 of 178 posts

Re: Warp is now open-source

#91

Post by giancarlostoro »

Muhammad523 wrote: post #86
giancarlostoro wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So if I use vim or emacs for free, or VS Code for that matter, I have to hunt down the maintainers and pay them? Do I need to empty my wallet for every project I use for free? Because that's not sustainable for normal people, let alone businesses.

> Not sustainable for normal people, let alone people I hope you are aware of the fact a business makes way more money than a "normal" person?

People are upset they raised 50 million, how many employees? How long does that keep their lights on? Maybe if they were raking in hundreds of millions I would be inclined to be outraged but if I make a startup tomorrow I cant just donate my VC bucks to every open source project I like until I have some real income coming in or my investors will want my head.

Re: Warp is now open-source

#93

Post by shimman »

ramon156 wrote: post #87
lagniappe wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you expect payment then put that in the license. Yes it's a dick move, but those are the terms the original developer chose.

This is such an HN take. "If you want money you have to force people into it" What a shithole society is

Then tech leaders suddenly act shocked when society violently starts rejecting them.

Re: Warp is now open-source

#94

Post by giancarlostoro »

Muhammad523 wrote: post #88
giancarlostoro wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So if I use vim or emacs for free, or VS Code for that matter, I have to hunt down the maintainers and pay them? Do I need to empty my wallet for every project I use for free? Because that's not sustainable for normal people, let alone businesses.

Donating to the free software you use, even a little, is good.

Not saying its not, I guess the core of my argument is that people are outraged that these guys raised 50 million… how much of that is going to employees and infrastructure? Is the owner sitting on 50 million in his personal bank account? Because the outrage feels very premature, not to mention they just open sourced the project when they really did not need to under any obligation. Far as I can tell they also did a lot of custom work on top of Alacritty, so its not 100% Alacritty.

Re: Warp is now open-source

#95

Post by anildash »

ramon156 wrote: post #87
lagniappe wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you expect payment then put that in the license. Yes it's a dick move, but those are the terms the original developer chose.

This is such an HN take. "If you want money you have to force people into it" What a shithole society is

It's technically legal to take photos of people through their windows, but we don't worry about anybody but big tech creeps actually doing it on a regular basis.

Re: Warp is now open-source

#96

Post by giancarlostoro »

saghm wrote: post #50
giancarlostoro wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So if I use vim or emacs for free, or VS Code for that matter, I have to hunt down the maintainers and pay them? Do I need to empty my wallet for every project I use for free? Because that's not sustainable for normal people, let alone businesses.

I don't have particularly strong preference for copyleft (I use the Apache license for my personal projects), but these don't seem like particularly compelling arguments. > So if I use vim or emacs for free, or VS Code for that matter Vim and emacs both use licenses that require you to share any source code modifications if you distribute binaries that you change, so that's kind of a strange comparison. You literally…

> I don't understand why you think it would be hard to "hunt down" someone when an email is literally in every commit in the git history of open source software.

I use Arch Linux, tell me which of the thousands of packages am I obligated to donate to? Im not exactly a money fountain to be giving money away to strangers I am grateful for, but it I put something on the internet as open source, for free, I dont cry if nobody reaches out to give me money. Honestly, I rather just be informed that my project is being used to make someone a profitable business, thats good enough for me personally. If I thought different, I wouldnt open source said projects.

Re: Warp is now open-source

#97

Post by shimman »

SuperHeavy256 wrote: post #89
shimman wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well do you consider yourself a good human or a greedy one? Do you care about others and community or just yourself?

You didn't answer their question. Asking your own questions isn't an answer.

Why doesn't it answer the question? If you are a selfish individual that doesn't believe in giving back. there simply isn't much to discuss.

These companies literally could not exist without the massive public dollars + support poured into them. Warp couldn't exist without the funds from public pensions being gambled with. Since these same companies have zero qualms in raping public resources, the government should simply start taking their money or nationalizing their businesses.

These leaders have shown they will absolutely destroy society to make a few dollars. We should reject them on the basis of being a member of the human race.

Their greed is literally destroying society and we have to ask if they should give more or not? We're beyond the point of giving, people are going to start taking and they're already starting off trying to take things you can't ever give back.

Re: Warp is now open-source

#98

Post by giancarlostoro »

rapind wrote: post #46
giancarlostoro wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So if I use vim or emacs for free, or VS Code for that matter, I have to hunt down the maintainers and pay them? Do I need to empty my wallet for every project I use for free? Because that's not sustainable for normal people, let alone businesses.

Why wouldn't you throw them a few bucks? Especially if your multi-million dollar business is basically a vim clone entirely based on their source...

I would once profitable, but early stages where every dollar matters? I can see why they wouldnt just throw money left and right.

Re: Warp is now open-source

#100

Post by zachlloyd »

unethical_ban wrote: post #85
devin wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I sort of can't tell if this is supposed to be a joke or not. It seems like you're explaining that in addition to not supporting the project from which your company spawned 50M, they also supplied free work for which they were never compensated. That's supposed to be better or something?

The charitable read is that the original project team willingly worked with Warp, knowing the direction they were going. I don't know any background on the drama FWIW.

that's the correct read - we shared what we were building and they helped us integrate alacritty. it's similar to how mitchell h reached out and asked today if we wanted to integrate ghostty.

we have a lot of open source library dependencies and are grateful to the folks who worked on them

Post reply on HN