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Re: Issue links now open in a popup

#91
post #77

Being able to see a detail view without navigating away from the list view is a better user experience and the more common practice now

I was responsible for this going out. The goal was to provide a more consistent user experience in that what happens when you click an issue would be the same in more places where we use the issue viewer (sub-issues on an issue, our dedicated issues dashboard (https://github.com/issues), GitHub Projects, and others). Like you mentioned, you also wouldn't lose your place when clicking an issue reference when reading a discussion. There were some performance improvements that came with the change too. It was well intentioned, but we hear you, and thanks for the feedback. We missed the mark on this one and it's been rolled back.

Re: Issue links now open in a popup

#92
post #7

It’s always been interesting to me that multi-million and even billion dollar tech companies don’t have perfect websites in terms of UX. Just last night I was helping my GF set up an ad for her job on LinkedIn. The UX was terrible. Like awful and basic things like save and exit were completely broken. Meanwhile LinkedIn makes what percentage of their revenue through ads? Same with google ads. It’s like these products…

The metric for perfect is

-Does it drive more people to the app -Does it maximize time spent on the site -etc

Your idea of perfect is very different than the one LinkedIn is using

Re: Issue links now open in a popup

#93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate that feature and I hate that they keep bloating browser which was lightweight. Just for the record.

I also don't understand this feature. Like yo, we heard you like tabs, so we put tabs in your tabs so you can tabulate while you tabulate. Huh?

i occasionally need to compare two tabs. previously that meant that i had to open those two tabs in separate windows and then use window tiling to place them side by side. setting that up was a lot of work. and also it makes switching windows very hard. each side by side view would add two more windows that all need to be cycled through when i switch windows. and don't try to have more than two of those on a workspace. you'll go crazy switching between them.

with the split view it not only becomes very easy, but the split tabs also keep their position among all the other tabs, so i can keep the view permanently without cluttering up my list of windows. currently i have 5 split views in active use. that number is likely to grow...

Re: Issue links now open in a popup

#94

This title is misleading: yes, a bunch of users didn't liked it. But of course there's UI research and likely A/B testing showed github that this might be preferable to the majority of users. Personally, I don't like it much. It sounds like leakage from AzDO design. Maybe a option to turn it off would be the best way out. Disclaimer: I work for msft, although I've no connection to github, ado or any other such tool.

Except there was a different comment from someone that actually knew how it came around, and it was an ugly performance workaround.

Re: Issue links now open in a popup

#96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate that feature and I hate that they keep bloating browser which was lightweight. Just for the record.

I also don't understand this feature. Like yo, we heard you like tabs, so we put tabs in your tabs so you can tabulate while you tabulate. Huh?

I think it’s a nice feature. I use it to have designs on one part of the screen and implementation on the other. That way I can jump between “designs | implementation” and “PR | swagger” without managing and resizing tabs. Previously I had to jump between tabs and taking into account the newer screens provide a considerable amount of UI real estate there was screen area to utilize.

Re: Issue links now open in a popup

#97
post #7

It’s always been interesting to me that multi-million and even billion dollar tech companies don’t have perfect websites in terms of UX. Just last night I was helping my GF set up an ad for her job on LinkedIn. The UX was terrible. Like awful and basic things like save and exit were completely broken. Meanwhile LinkedIn makes what percentage of their revenue through ads? Same with google ads. It’s like these products…

It's precisely because they're so big that they can afford to overhire lots of designers, which then obviously need to justify their employment by continually changing things. This isn't a problem with small and tiny companies where "UX designer" might not even be a separate job but the responsibility of someone who will care only enough to make something that works and then leave well enough alone.

Re: Issue links now open in a popup

#98
post #7

It’s always been interesting to me that multi-million and even billion dollar tech companies don’t have perfect websites in terms of UX. Just last night I was helping my GF set up an ad for her job on LinkedIn. The UX was terrible. Like awful and basic things like save and exit were completely broken. Meanwhile LinkedIn makes what percentage of their revenue through ads? Same with google ads. It’s like these products…

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Re: Issue links now open in a popup

#99
post #72
post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you elaborate? The header meaning the top part of the page? I just checked on a recent repo I visited and it has the usual banner (which would stay the same), the repo path, some links, and some stats. Considering every page navigation would likely pull which links and stats are shown, why is this a delta to go to another repo and why are presumably 3 database entries (possible links, stars, forks) so slow?

Navigation within a repository does not reload the page, only the section below the header.

which is also driving me nuts because it frequently fails to update the issue and PR counts when I close issues or PRs. Only a hard reload, or closing the tab and opening a new new one, fixes it.

Re: Issue links now open in a popup

#100
post #7

It’s always been interesting to me that multi-million and even billion dollar tech companies don’t have perfect websites in terms of UX. Just last night I was helping my GF set up an ad for her job on LinkedIn. The UX was terrible. Like awful and basic things like save and exit were completely broken. Meanwhile LinkedIn makes what percentage of their revenue through ads? Same with google ads. It’s like these products…

It's precisely because they're so big that they can afford to overhire lots of designers, which then obviously need to justify their employment by continually changing things. This isn't a problem with small and tiny companies where "UX designer" might not even be a separate job but the responsibility of someone who will care only enough to make something that works and then leave well enough alone.

i have a really good friend who did the whole UI/UX design bootcamp during the explosion of UX/UI jobs. he did okay, he's probably hopped jobs 2-3 times now and is now without a job.

i actually feel for him, it's definitely one of the career paths that's looked at as excess/waste now while companies slim up to reappropriate money for AI. but i do think there was something there, he was genuinely passionate about what he did and it's just really hard to find work doing it now.

i feel guilty saying this but i've let him talk me through some of what he does, show me how he sees and approaches design (the bulk of what he did was design the interfaces for publicly used webapps and mobile apps) and... idk. i feel like it's all acquired taste and almost a "good app developer will think of these things when they design the front end" and a lot of his insight to me broadly looked like a lot of stuff i would've considered myself as a mere sidequest and my general thought process to deliver a good app. the difference is im building the app and designing the user experience, but his entire career is silo'd to just building the user experience.

im not against breaking out the design to a dedicated resource whether thats one designer or one team who wants to try and maintain a consistent language for a company. i think this has upside to make the design experience not locked to a single developer or developer team, and opens it up to a lot more channels of input. but on the other hand, like it's not the end of the world for me as a developer to come up with a really good design & i personally have never imagined myself not considering UX/UI at every corner when I'm building something. It feels like a second nature to me, there's creative aha moments to it, i think it's generally really good for a developer to step into a users shoes and almost "debug" the experience.

where i think ui/ux has gone off the rails:

- i think it's unduly influenced web design and has been poisoned by marketing. the rise of landing pages for SaaS that say a whole lot of fucking nothing and the crossover with "marketing research". i actually literally can't stand these types of pages, i swear 75% of the time i click around and can never get a straight answer on what the product/service is. examples: https://boomi.com https://www.astronomer.io

- things like OP, issue links opening in popups. changing things for the sake of changing things. such a change is probably "backed by research / surveys" giving the illusion that this was a data driven-decision, making it hard to push back on.... despite on deployment = everyone universally hating it. there seems to be some heavy flaws with the data sampling/collection methods that drive these decisions. i think the field of ux/ui as its own distinguished and defined field needs to undergo a self-awareness evolution here. something that's happened quite a few times in engineering. they really need to scoot back and have one of those "sometimes the best path forward is to not change anything at all" moments collectively and learn to recognize when that is right in front of you

- sometimes (maybe more than sometimes) allowing the business to dictate design is mayhaps not a good thing. i think what im trying to say here is the existence of "hes the ux/ui guy in the department, go talk to him" gives business stakeholders misaligned incentives to just go and push a change that isn't _actually_ user oriented, but is heavily tied into some metric or some other stupid business initiative. actually the more that i think about it this is probably why a lot ui/ux careers exist (give all control of the design over to the business) and that seems like a slippery slope

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