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Do you want the US to "win" AI?

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Re: Do you want the US to "win" AI?

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> Do you want the US to "win" AI? I don't want any one particular country, or organization, to "win" AI. I want AI capabilities to remain diffuse and spread out, so that everybody has access to approximately equal levels of AI. If anything, you might say that I want "Open Source to win AI".

That's the last thing big tech companies want. Maybe Meta being the odd exception with Llama.

Apple, at least at present.

Re: Do you want the US to "win" AI?

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AI society is going to be: - you, chained on your sofa, watching ads "tailored-made by AI for you" - weaponized robots roaming the streets to ensure everyone is "at work" and not "at leisure activities" - "no need to vote", of course, because "AI already knows what's good for you"...

Why don’t we go out in the streets and protest? Like the french did some centuries ago. If only we stop using instagram, youtube, if we stop searching in google, if we ditch claude, openai, for a couple of days… the billionaries will notice it and get hurt. That would be like a warning from our side

> Why don’t we go out in the streets and protest?

We'll then they'll just send the kill-bots to deal with the problem (you).

Real reason: political polarization and social media has fragmented society, isolated people, and instilled a deep sense of cynicism to sap the motivation of people to take political action that would actually help themselves against the billionaires. Classic divide and conquer.

For instance: what to start a tech union? You're gonna fail because on the one hand you've got people who really want to focus on stuff like trans issues and Israel/Palestine, and then on the other you have a lot of people who want to have nothing to do with the first group. The result: no coordinated worker response to issues like offshoring and AI, and the billionaires and CEOs get to run wild.

Re: Do you want the US to "win" AI?

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I don't have any comment on the post but that chart is fascinating. Both because the US bar is comparatively way off to the right. But also what's up in say, Belgium re: AI? My old (US) company's AI expert was in Belgium for reasons but the country being on the leader board surprises me.

Belgium could be in the top5 in the next report chart due to Google alone.

https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/infrastructure-and-clo...

Re: Do you want the US to "win" AI?

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AI society is going to be: - you, chained on your sofa, watching ads "tailored-made by AI for you" - weaponized robots roaming the streets to ensure everyone is "at work" and not "at leisure activities" - "no need to vote", of course, because "AI already knows what's good for you"...

Why don’t we go out in the streets and protest? Like the french did some centuries ago. If only we stop using instagram, youtube, if we stop searching in google, if we ditch claude, openai, for a couple of days… the billionaries will notice it and get hurt. That would be like a warning from our side

Last century? The French did that just last month!

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2026/03/08/t...

Re: Do you want the US to "win" AI?

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> Do you want the US to "win" AI? I don't want any one particular country, or organization, to "win" AI. I want AI capabilities to remain diffuse and spread out, so that everybody has access to approximately equal levels of AI. If anything, you might say that I want "Open Source to win AI".

That's the last thing big tech companies want. Maybe Meta being the odd exception with Llama.

The TOTAL opposite!

Getting free labour, lipstick of "freedom", and enable to put millions invested in what open source never can do: Scaling, infra, win big contracts, etc.

Open Source NEVER win the market game.

It only give consolation to few that can run things locally.

Re: Do you want the US to "win" AI?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the last thing big tech companies want. Maybe Meta being the odd exception with Llama.

Meta is not in the AI game any more

LLM Arena has them at #3 on the overview, behind Anthropic and Google, ahead of Grok and OpenAI.

Re: Do you want the US to "win" AI?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not a chart of investment by patriotic US citizens seeking to better the country such that the country "wins" .. more like a chart of military and motte and bailey investments made by individual feuding Norman clans each seeking to be the last castle standing and in control of all the throttle points and gates across the country and ideally the world.

This is a good time to reflect on the etymology of "Banana Republic" [0]. I suspect most people don't see fruit companies as a major threat, but they'll kill and ravage to get people cheap bananas. This idea that the morals of the people making investments is in any way relevant is a bit of a misframe. Investors are capable of any evil, the default position is of surprise if one of them is investing out of some sense…

Slightly off topic but the Vice banana documentary is a surprisingly interesting 15 minutes https://youtu.be/2Bm5NWCMlPo Some on banana republics and also much other stuff.

Re: Do you want the US to "win" AI?

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post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a good time to reflect on the etymology of "Banana Republic" [0]. I suspect most people don't see fruit companies as a major threat, but they'll kill and ravage to get people cheap bananas. This idea that the morals of the people making investments is in any way relevant is a bit of a misframe. Investors are capable of any evil, the default position is of surprise if one of them is investing out of some sense…

Slightly off topic but the Vice banana documentary is a surprisingly interesting 15 minutes https://youtu.be/2Bm5NWCMlPo Some on banana republics and also much other stuff.

If you prefer reading, I remember enjoying this article a lot on the Cavendish banana ages ago: https://www.damninteresting.com/the-unfortunate-sex-life-of-...
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