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Ping-pong robot beats top-level human players

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Re: Ping-pong robot beats top-level human players

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Post by chucksmash »

jimt1234 wrote: post #44
tartoran wrote: post #7

Cool. Now let's see two robots play and if it's fun let it become it's own thing. Other than that, this could be used for training actual players.

I've always wished for something similar: autonomous car racing. No human drivers. No remote controls. Just program the cars before the race, and let them go. Maybe even load the cars with mild explosives so they go BOOM when they crash.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARPA_Grand_Challenge_(2005)

(Linking that one as it's the first in which any of the teams completed the entire course)

Re: Ping-pong robot beats top-level human players

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Post by mgfist »

throwatdem12311 wrote: post #87

I don’t care about robots being better than humans at human achievement. Would anyone ever watch Clankers play hockey against eachother at a Clanker Olympics? The idea is absurd, I want to see humans competing because they are humans not just because they are good.

> Clankers play hockey against eachother at a Clanker Olympics

Well actually hockey in particular could be entertaining, depending on how they play.

Re: Ping-pong robot beats top-level human players

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Post by efskap »

throwatdem12311 wrote: post #87

I don’t care about robots being better than humans at human achievement. Would anyone ever watch Clankers play hockey against eachother at a Clanker Olympics? The idea is absurd, I want to see humans competing because they are humans not just because they are good.

Furthermore, I think we care most about the context surrounding the humans.

If a txt2vid model could generate a 100% perfect video of a soccer match, perfectly rendering each blade of grass, would anyone watch it? No, because we care about the team and the stories of the players. Not just the spectacle being shown.

Re: Ping-pong robot beats top-level human players

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Post by throwatdem12311 »

mgfist wrote: post #92
throwatdem12311 wrote: post #87

I don’t care about robots being better than humans at human achievement. Would anyone ever watch Clankers play hockey against eachother at a Clanker Olympics? The idea is absurd, I want to see humans competing because they are humans not just because they are good.

> Clankers play hockey against eachother at a Clanker Olympics Well actually hockey in particular could be entertaining, depending on how they play.

Robocops vs Terminators maybe

Re: Ping-pong robot beats top-level human players

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Post by _carbyau_ »

vova_hn2 wrote: post #82

While the engineering behind this achievement is really impressive, it doesn't feel that important in the grand scheme of things. We had machines "beating" humans in physical tasks for a very long time. No one would be impressed by a car winning a running competition or a construction crane lifting more weight than an Olympic weightlifting champion.

And humans have mastered radio waves for communication, washing machines for washing clothes, dishwashers for dishes etc etc.

However, the point here is not that it makes a sport redundant, but that a type of observation, calculation, and movement has been achieved.

I for one hope to see this tech in action from the customer side of a teppanyaki restaurant. It won't replace the humour of a good human teppanyaki chef but maybe I'll be able to afford it....

Re: Ping-pong robot beats top-level human players

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Post by trhway »

DennisP wrote: post #86
trhway wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Autonomous suicide drone swarms are easily countered by autonomous interceptor swarms. >Marching humanoid terminator robots ground bots, not necessarily marching, do have their value. They can have bulletproof armor, while still be relatively lightweight and small and fast. They can easily carry even 20-25mm autocannon - very destructive weapon, sometimes can even succeed against a real tank. And imagine when a swarm…

They can also sit in one spot guarding a position without using much battery. Ukraine recently took territory from Russian forces using ground bots, the first time it's been done without using soldiers on the ground. Now they're starting to scale the bots up to mass production.

the issue is remote control. Ground position means a lot of obstacles in addition to the widespread jamming. One can try to control the bot from the fiber-optic controlled drone hanging over, yet such complication has its own drawbacks. That means that ground bots are in real need of making them autonomous.

Re: Ping-pong robot beats top-level human players

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Post by LanceJones »

Morromist wrote: post #37
phtrivier wrote: post #20

My biggest fear at the moment is robot armies and police forces. Case in point : we're all expecting China needs to invade Taiwan soon, or they will run out of soldiers because of the one child policies of the 70s/80s. Meanwhile, Ukraine is holding up against a "modern" army with quickly assembled drones. So it all seems a bit like "they'll never put tanks through the Ardennes", sort of ? Where and when will the firs…

China had more births in 2025 than all of europe and russia combined so I don't think they're going to run out of soldiers.

But also more deaths. It's the delta that's important.

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Post by fragmede »

kibwen wrote: post #32
phtrivier wrote: post #20

My biggest fear at the moment is robot armies and police forces. Case in point : we're all expecting China needs to invade Taiwan soon, or they will run out of soldiers because of the one child policies of the 70s/80s. Meanwhile, Ukraine is holding up against a "modern" army with quickly assembled drones. So it all seems a bit like "they'll never put tanks through the Ardennes", sort of ? Where and when will the firs…

Marching humanoid terminator robots will never be as cheap as a drone. Autonomous suicide drone swarms are what should terrify you.

Which of those is opening doors?
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