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Re: CyanogenMod.com hijacked. Transition to CyanogenMod.org

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

facorreia wrote: post #68
philp wrote: post #13

Does anybody know how this "rogue" webmaster took undue advantage of the CyanogenMod brand? The Facebook post states something about referral deals with community sites. Any idea what that would mean in practical terms? Just curious.

According to the conversation linked to by CM member koush[1], in one instance he approached a CM distributor requesting a 'contribution': "Hi, we noticed that you are selling these cards with CyanogenMod builds. We do not however seem to have any agreements in place for this and feel it's only fair that you start contributing to the CyanogenMod project to continue selling your products." [1] https://twitter.com/kous…

That does seem fair, doesn't it?

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#92

Post by skeletonjelly »

entropy_ wrote: post #78
michaelhoffman wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Registrant: MetServe Enterprises Limited Kemp House City Road London, London EC1V 2NX GB Domain name: CYANOGENMOD.COM Administrative Contact: Enterprises, MetServe info@metserve.com Kemp House City Road London, London EC1V 2NX GB +44.2081232629 Technical Contact: Enterprises, MetServe info@metserve.com Kemp House City Road London, London EC1V 2NX GB +44.2081232629 Doesn't have a person's name though.

Well, this conversation: https://twitter.com/koush/status/268836995890028544 has a guy called Ahmet Deveci who seems to be going at it with Koush about giving back DNS domains. His profile on twitter says "Entrepreneur, with a passion for website design, development and all things technology. Director of Metserve Enterprises. London, UK · http://www.mradeveci.com That seems like the guy.

Let's try and be certain before we start hurling abuse eh mobs?

Re: CyanogenMod.com hijacked. Transition to CyanogenMod.org

#93

Post by pla3rhat3r »

I had this happen to me when I started a music blog in 2008. Some trust fund brat decided he would hijack the site and I was forced to basically start over. It was painful but 3 years later I'm glad I did. I was able to rebuild and now have a better site with a better team in place. It'll take time but these guys will recover too. Integrity always wins!

Re: CyanogenMod.com hijacked. Transition to CyanogenMod.org

#94

Post by lambda »

Wow, this thread is pretty interesting, in which you can see the owner of the .com domain convincing someone to donate $500 a month to what they thought was the cyanogenmod team: https://store.n2acards.com/helpdesk/viewticket/moderator/cod...

And in the thread, he mentions that Swappa is doing the same thing, $500 a month plus $10 per device sold, though there's no way to verify if that's true. Swappa claims to donate $5 per device sold to Cyanogenmod, though who knows if that's been going to the actual project or this joker. http://swappa.com/cyanogenmod

That's some pretty serious fraud there, if this is true.

Re: CyanogenMod.com hijacked. Transition to CyanogenMod.org

#95

Post by lambda »

greyboy wrote: post #34
bronson wrote: post #3

It seems a nice idea, buying the CM.com domain and donating it to the project. Wonder if this sleazeball had a change of heart, or was he planning on embezzling referral traffic the whole time?

I read: And due to the small size (and lack of funds), the CyanogenMod.com domain was bought by a third-party back in 2009 and donated to CM, when CM was a much smaller project and had no online presence besides XDA. I must be missing something (and speaking from a US perspective), but was $10 really unattainable in order to secure a domain? Three years worth would have been $30-ish dollars now. Genuinely curious wha…

Unless cyanogenmod.com had already been taken by a squatter, who was selling it for a few hundred dollars.

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#96

Post by lambda »

cookiecaper wrote: post #60

Cyanogenmod devs need to get PGP keys and start using cryptographic signatures like now. The guy never would have been able to impersonate in the first place if they were doing this, and now it's even more important that the @cyanogenmod.com domain is directing to a different mail server.

Not sure if that's the case. Most people he was impersonating himself to probably don't know enough to find and check PGP signatures; especially since most email does not come with PGP signatures, the lack of a signature is not something that would cause anyone to bat an eyelash.

Re: CyanogenMod.com hijacked. Transition to CyanogenMod.org

#97

Post by gcb »

VMG wrote: post #46

Why are large parts of the android custom ROM community unprofessional and immature? I always shiver a little if I have to dive into xda-forums, but this takes it to the next level. Puts all the actual hard working developers in a bad light.

Because most self-respecting developers do not like to work on a platform where everything is closed source in the hardware... that said, i'm glad a few of the not-so-self-respecting good ones does not see a problem with that.

Re: CyanogenMod.com hijacked. Transition to CyanogenMod.org

#98

Post by lambda »

VMG wrote: post #46

Why are large parts of the android custom ROM community unprofessional and immature? I always shiver a little if I have to dive into xda-forums, but this takes it to the next level. Puts all the actual hard working developers in a bad light.

I think its because they grew out of the phone ROM community, which pre-Android, generally meant hacking up a binary blob and distributing them on forums. This was never quite legal, but lots of people did it anyhow. Like any community build around legal grey areas, like Xbox and PS3 modders, there's a lot more anonymity, less professionalism, and the like, than there is, say in the free software world, where people are legally, and in many cases professionally, writing software to run on their own machines.

Even once Android came out, there are enough binary blobs, like the actual phone firmware, drivers, the Play Store, the Google Apps, and so on, that a lot of the mods are just redistributions of the binary packages with a few configuration changes and some custom software on top, rather than a rebuild from source of AOSP.

Re: CyanogenMod.com hijacked. Transition to CyanogenMod.org

#99

Post by facorreia »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #91
facorreia wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to the conversation linked to by CM member koush[1], in one instance he approached a CM distributor requesting a 'contribution': "Hi, we noticed that you are selling these cards with CyanogenMod builds. We do not however seem to have any agreements in place for this and feel it's only fair that you start contributing to the CyanogenMod project to continue selling your products." [1] https://twitter.com/kous…

That does seem fair, doesn't it?

The team claim he was not authorized to make such claims and that the project never received these payments.

Re: CyanogenMod.com hijacked. Transition to CyanogenMod.org

#100

Post by raphman »

VMG wrote: post #46

Why are large parts of the android custom ROM community unprofessional and immature? I always shiver a little if I have to dive into xda-forums, but this takes it to the next level. Puts all the actual hard working developers in a bad light.

Could you elaborate on why this issue shows that "large parts of the android custom ROM community unprofessional and immature"? As far as I can see, the developers trusted someone they should not have trusted. That is not necessarily a sign of being "unprofessional and immature", is it?
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