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The only way Zionism can be moral is if it abandons the idea of a Jewish supremacist nation.
Nobody says this about any Islamic country
In the meantime, this outrage appears to be more based in the criminal conduct of a genocidal state than any religious amenity
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What part? eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_the_Ott... ?
This part https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhimmi Edit: Sorry, I can't reply to your comment below, for some reason. This part, > Did you know that Jews lived among Muslims for over a thousand years in peace? is revisionist because it paints second-class status for Jews as "peace". This is ridiculous, a fiction akin to "separate but equal" without even the pretense of equality. Additionally, > The violence started happe…
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What part? eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_the_Ott... ?
This part https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhimmi Edit: Sorry, I can't reply to your comment below, for some reason. This part, > Did you know that Jews lived among Muslims for over a thousand years in peace? is revisionist because it paints second-class status for Jews as "peace". This is ridiculous, a fiction akin to "separate but equal" without even the pretense of equality. Additionally, > The violence started happe…
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Seriously, when ate the war criminals finally dragged before courts and sentenced like their forebears in Nuremberg?
Nuremberg was only possible because Germany was invaded succesfully by allied forces. All this war crime talk is nonsense. Either talk about sending your own children to war against Israel, or criticize them in other real terms. There are no war crimes against countries who don't recognize the ICJ, and even then, unless the judiciary of the country is consenting, a war crime charge isn't pursued. It isn't a competiti…
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Hacker News is an American website. Hacker News allows political discussion. Israel is very relevant to American politics, many would argue too much so, but in any case, why shouldn't it be discussed here?
> If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic
People don't come to Hacker News to talk about wars. They come to get away from wars.
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Hacker News is an American website. Hacker News allows political discussion. Israel is very relevant to American politics, many would argue too much so, but in any case, why shouldn't it be discussed here?
Because it's not intellectually interesting and because it falls in the off-topic category based on the guidelines of this site. > If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic People don't come to Hacker News to talk about wars. They come to get away from wars.
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This part https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhimmi Edit: Sorry, I can't reply to your comment below, for some reason. This part, > Did you know that Jews lived among Muslims for over a thousand years in peace? is revisionist because it paints second-class status for Jews as "peace". This is ridiculous, a fiction akin to "separate but equal" without even the pretense of equality. Additionally, > The violence started happe…
It’s not clear what "revisionist" means in this context, especially when pointing to Dhimmi. I’ve never heard of it before today. I’m aware that Jews and Muslims live in Iran today. There is historical evidence, including written accounts, that some arrangement (Dhimmi?) existed over 1,200 years ago—whether social, legal, cultural, or, most likely, a combination. Under this system, the religions coexisted without the…
today. I’m aware that Jews and Muslims live in Iran today
5x as many Iranian jews live in the USA now. 20x in Israel.
Iran has a population of almost 100 million, and the Hollywood Bowl could seat its jewish population twice over.
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What part? eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_the_Ott... ?
This part https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhimmi Edit: Sorry, I can't reply to your comment below, for some reason. This part, > Did you know that Jews lived among Muslims for over a thousand years in peace? is revisionist because it paints second-class status for Jews as "peace". This is ridiculous, a fiction akin to "separate but equal" without even the pretense of equality. Additionally, > The violence started happe…
Let's agree for a moment that there was intense bigotry and prejudice, as I'm very sure there was some amount. As we can also agree, there is human tribalism alive and well to this day between people of minimal or great differences.
Separate but equal is not enslavement or extermination. Dhimmi was the basis for peace, not equality, and I haven't found a compelling alternative narrative.
> > The violence started happening when the Zionists wanted the land for themselves, exclusive of the indigenous population (1948 nakba).
> Is ahistorical.
While I can appreciate what you're trying to say here, the post you are responding to was describing a situation within the context of the Zionist state movement of the mid 1900s. The fact that there have always been Jewish settlements throughout the historical Levant (and beyond) is incidental. Neither of these points are without merit. I'm not sure arguing past each other about who deserves what is constructive.