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Germany suspends military approval for long stays abroad for men under 45

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Re: Germany suspends military approval for long stays abroad for men under 45

#91

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It's ridiculous that the German government now has to officially state "Please ignore the letter of the law, we didn't mean it that way."

That is the main problem with it. It shows the incompetence of our legislative procedures.

Hey, look who doesn't understand how the laws are made now.

Re: Germany suspends military approval for long stays abroad for men under 45

#92
We are too far away from the last real war in Europe, which was WWII, and forgot how massive thing it is. Let's start saying that a war or a preparation for it is an experience that cannot be expressed wholly by words. Our current life doesn't seem to be anything like that. That's because, IMHO, the war shenanigan is a forced artificial thing, imposed by background global forces just to sell some more weapons and spread some fear and worry. Not much more will happen.

Re: Germany suspends military approval for long stays abroad for men under 45

#93
post #83

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> I am all for Europe being prepared for war. That is a necessity. Why? Name one scenario where EU needs a bigger army and masses of barely-trained conscripts. If you say "Ukraine loses", why not spend all effort on helping Ukraine instead? > So, I am all for better health care, better education, less dependency on foreign gas and oil, better funding for goverment programs ... You do realize that preparing for war is…

> If you say "Ukraine loses", why not spend all the effort into helping Ukraine instead? It can't be allowed to cost any real amount of money. In case you're about to say that's a contradiction with Ukraine support: 96% of all EU support to Ukraine is a loan that has to be repaid (and the "90 billion" package will be that, as well). If Ukraine wins, the current tally is that 15% of all Ukrainian tax will go to, well,…

> 96% of all EU support to Ukraine is a loan

Most EU support is not repaid

> the German state sees Germans as both expendable and cheap

Germany hasn't lost a soldier in combat in over 10 years

> terminator

The rest is not even wrong

Re: Germany suspends military approval for long stays abroad for men under 45

#94
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We are told that we are in a state of preparing for war. When we will start restricting luxury items, unnecessary private jet travel, energy waste in crypto-currencies, etc.? Because it seems that for being so obsessed to be prepared for war the only ones affected are the working class. The rich are just wasting resources away like if there was no tomorrow. I just see austerity 2.0 to cut citizens rights, cut service…

Private jet travel? Cryptocurrencies? You’re just naming things that you don’t like. The reality is that these are not large contributors.

What would you say?

Re: Germany suspends military approval for long stays abroad for men under 45

#95
post #51

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Women can help the front line fighters but if I was running a country I would not want to put a large number of women on the front, especially young women. Sure they can fight and kill. But a country that loses its ability to make more people won't last longer than a generation. Two things a country needs from which all other needs derive: people and a border that can be defended. Men historically get sacrificed to p…

> And women "sacrificed" to make more people. By and large, women stopped "sacrificing" a while ago, globally - or at least reduced it by large numbers. Which is completely fine. But it makes the original point moot.

It's fine for now. Fast forward even 100 years and tell me what population numbers look like.

Then another 100 years.

Re: Germany suspends military approval for long stays abroad for men under 45

#96

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That's, like, your obsession, not their's.

I don't care. Until being 18 years old I had had no opinion or even an idea that there exist a commission waiting to see my genitals. It's when you refuse then they become obsessed to enforce and conduct the examination.

Because there is no such commission? Are you sure, you went through a mustering physical? There is no commission waiting to see your wiener. There is an MD to examine you. The MD writes a report that is attached to your file.

What the commission might get serious with is enforcing the mustering process, regardless if it is about the medical exam or the aptitude tests.

Re: Germany suspends military approval for long stays abroad for men under 45

#97
post #11

We are told that we are in a state of preparing for war. When we will start restricting luxury items, unnecessary private jet travel, energy waste in crypto-currencies, etc.? Because it seems that for being so obsessed to be prepared for war the only ones affected are the working class. The rich are just wasting resources away like if there was no tomorrow. I just see austerity 2.0 to cut citizens rights, cut service…

> Because it seems that for being so obsessed to be prepared for war the only ones affected are the working class. The rich are just wasting resources away like if there was no tomorrow

In the US it was very fascinating to see the reaction to the Iran conflict. A bunch of geriatric pedowood actors and actual Epstein associates were seething that young men in general across the political spectrum who do not want to die in a pointless war of nothing in some god forsaken desert again.

Re: Germany suspends military approval for long stays abroad for men under 45

#98

I cannot understand how German men can be expected to fight while women are exempt. It's pure sexism against men and also very insulting to women. I'm opposed to conscription in general, but I live in Sweden with gender-neutral conscription laws, and I would do my best to defend my country if it became necessary. If I were a man in an alternate version of Sweden with male-only conscription, I would feel so disrespect…

It’s a constitutional issue. Article 12a of the German constitution states: "(1) Men may be called up for service in the armed forces, the Federal Border Guard, or a civil defence unit upon reaching the age of eighteen." The current administration has a majority, I think three votes (excuse my inaccuracy), to change the constitution. Women can fight as well, and they do. But there is currently no legal, constitutiona…

This answer is so hilariously German )

Re: Germany suspends military approval for long stays abroad for men under 45

#99
post #87

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So... did you get robbed or stabbed in Munich or are just racist?

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you really did not explain what changed, what happens now there that isn't "normal" anymore. Treating you as a racist is the easy part, the problem is how you, as a racist, are treating people.

Re: Germany suspends military approval for long stays abroad for men under 45

#100

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We already disgrace ourselves by having some of the core ideologies of our society being blatant lies. We have been repeatedly told that "equality" is primordial to our values. That men had to forego their privileges in the name of it. The hypocrisy of the defenders of those ideas suddenly being so complacent when we look at the other side of the coin is revolting.

> That men had to forego their privileges in the name of it. Care to name a few?

Like being paid more (because they work in more dangerous or risky jobs) or having higher suicide rate or being able to wear clothes repeatedly without being judged. Not being forced to wear makeup
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