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Re: The Gemini app is now on Mac

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I've had the gemini web app in a safari embedded browser tab for 6+months its worked great as a local app. (M1 Pro base spec) I set Super + C set to open it. First impressions of the native app: I think I will save RAM and it will be faster - Cool. Download, install, sign in - Easy. Change the keyboard shortcuts - Simple. cmd + N to open a new chat - better than cmd + shift + O in the web app. Back to work, a few mom…

same experience here, way too slow compared to the web app

Re: The Gemini app is now on Mac

#92

I've had the gemini web app in a safari embedded browser tab for 6+months its worked great as a local app. (M1 Pro base spec) I set Super + C set to open it. First impressions of the native app: I think I will save RAM and it will be faster - Cool. Download, install, sign in - Easy. Change the keyboard shortcuts - Simple. cmd + N to open a new chat - better than cmd + shift + O in the web app. Back to work, a few mom…

The Windows app doesn't always (or even usually, in my experience) stay synced with the webapp, so I only use webapp now. Wondering if the same will be true for the Mac app.

Re: The Gemini app is now on Mac

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I run lmstudio now and it’s more like a “chat” bot. Where as Gemini app is more like an agent.

I’ve been missing agentic capabilities from almost all local LLM apps. It’s like they’re all stuck in 2023. That’s why I started using OpenCode for this. It works pretty well, the web UI comes pretty close to a general chat app. You can use folders to organize your sessions like projects (which annoyingly Gemini still doesn’t have) with files and extra instructions. It’s pretty powerful.

OpenCode is one solution, but there are also several alternatives.

For example pi-dev, but even Codex is open source and it should work with any locally-hosted model, e.g. by using the OpenAI-compatible API provided by llama-server.

I have not used pi-dev until now, but the recent presentation of pi-dev by its developer (reported on other HN threads) has convinced me that he is among the people who can distinguish good from bad, which unfortunately cannot be said about many people creating AI applications.

So I intend to switch to using pi-dev as a coding assistant for my locally-hosted models, but I do not have yet results demonstrating that this is the right choice, besides its lead developer being more trustworthy than the others.

Re: The Gemini app is now on Mac

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Google models are good, their products are all subpar

Do you know anyone who is innovating beyond basic chat? Yes there's Claude Code, but I just can't stand them with woke politics, limits, poor prompt adherence. ChatGPT has been ok, but mostly same chat window (with terrible model hallucination). At least in google's ai studio you can interrupt using keyboard.

Anthropic is out in front with their Desktop app (imo), I have to evaluate it for rollout at a client, latest update brought significant improvements. I find Claude and the soul thing to be annoying. I won't touch Sam Altman stuff, for similar economic / political reasons in the opposite direction. OpenAI is the most likely to fail too (imo) and rumor has it they have not had a successful pre training run since Ilya left, with the 5.x series being mid/late iterations on the unreleased 4.5

Personally, I built a full custom agent stack so I can have full control. There should be lots of options these days for beyond just chat. Search my HN or GitHub history if you want more details on my take.

Re: The Gemini app is now on Mac

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Google models are good, their products are all subpar

I recently discovered you can lose chat history by switching between using Gemma web "app" and at least the Android version. Simply start chat on web, head to couch and continue on phone, later go back to web and, crucially, do not refresh your browser, but resume chatting. All that lovely stuff you chatted about on your phone will be gone from the chat... Android app also loses anything you've typed but not submitte…

I wouldn't attribute that as much to the model as I would the tools, prompts, and app plumbing around them. This is where I find Google to be really lacking in comparison to Anthropic and my custom stack. I don't use OpenAI so cannot offer a comparison or opinion.

Re: The Gemini app is now on Mac

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I recently discovered you can lose chat history by switching between using Gemma web "app" and at least the Android version. Simply start chat on web, head to couch and continue on phone, later go back to web and, crucially, do not refresh your browser, but resume chatting. All that lovely stuff you chatted about on your phone will be gone from the chat... Android app also loses anything you've typed but not submitte…

I wouldn't attribute that as much to the model as I would the tools, prompts, and app plumbing around them. This is where I find Google to be really lacking in comparison to Anthropic and my custom stack. I don't use OpenAI so cannot offer a comparison or opinion.

Right I meant the experience from the apps, since that was what OP talked about.

I couldn't even get the Gemini VSCode plugin to work so haven't tried that, just kept asking me to log in and saw others reporting the same.

So yeah...

Re: The Gemini app is now on Mac

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Out of curiosity, why do you like gemini-cli better than claude or codex? And do you have any comparisons to opencode or pi? Personally I've really liked OpenCode's TUI, but maybe on a superficial level of "this looks good and feels ergonomic to me". Gemini cli felt clunky for me when I tried a while ago, but maybe it's better now? I do like how it's open source and I'm wondering if it can be made as model agnostic a…

I don't really see or feel a difference in a lot of the the cli tooling, however, for development work Gemini is just hands down better. And I pay for ultra, and while that's not cheap, I know I can just use it however long I want for whatever I want and I'll never go past the price I pay unlike some API key only models.

Nice! With Anthropic and OpenAI lowering usage limits that’s a big deal. I’ve been considering a Gemini subscription because I’m already paying for the Google storage plan and it would only be $10 a month more for me.

Do you use Gemini 3.1 pro or the flash model or just auto? Any feelings about quality vs other models?

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