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US national level OS-level age verification bill proposed

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Re: US national level OS-level age verification bill proposed

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Post by danwills »

ButlerianJihad wrote: post #19

What is the age of a script that I wrote to be triggered by cron? What is the age of a script that my 10-year-old son wrote to be triggered in his dad's crontab? If I do "sudo -l" to my son's account, what is the age of the user performing actions? If my son writes a set-user-ID program and I run it, what is the user's age now?

Spot on! So much silly engineering would be needed to make this even slightly make sense for normal Linux 'users' and even then, if you can be root then there is no limit!? root can do anything as any user, right? And it's definitely expected that the system admin (ie yourself for your own computer!) can become root!!

I'm glad I'm on a source distribution (Gentoo, even though it does require patience) so I could in-theory edit/patch out the nasty bits before they even become binaries if anything like this ever does go ahead! (Seems unlikely to really work for Linux users anyway really though, for many of the reasons you suggested!)

Re: US national level OS-level age verification bill proposed

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Post by Moomoomoo309 »

burnt-resistor wrote: post #28
ipnon wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really think left-right and honest-dishonest are useless dimensions to evaluate Congress members on. The job practically requires ideological fuzziness and truth stretching to get anything done. This is a feature: legislatures that require high ideological purity tend to become rubber stamps. DPRK is a good example.

You're bothesidesing and rationalizing a complete lack of integrity. AIPAC money, PAC money, and gold bar bribe takers are definitely corrupt and need to be in prison.

Honestly, I'm from NJ and I'm still shocked they actually charged Gold Bar Bob for what he did. He's so influential in NJ politics, I thought they'd let him get away with it like he did all the other bribes he's taken over the years. I guess literal gold bars from Egypt with obvious provenance was just too on the nose.

Re: US national level OS-level age verification bill proposed

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Post by tantalor »

stevenalowe wrote: post #96

Looks like compelled speech to me, both for the operating system creator and the users. I do not believe that “interstate commerce” powers negate the first amendment.

If you really want to get constitutional on it, I think a better angle might be 4A (unreasonable search) or 5A (due process).

Requiring disclosure of my age is effectively a search, without specific probable cause, and there are no means for me to challenge this in court.

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