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Not yet... but me in 2020 telling you what the HN frontpage 2026 would look like you would have sent me to a mental institution, wouldn't you?
"every 5th article is about no-code-solutions that sometimes work" might be unexpected but it's hardly the stuff of institutionalization.
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> If its all obviously shit then it shouldn't be that hard. Maybe point Claude at it and ask it to find stupid stuff. What does that even mean? Am I supposed to point Claude at garbage code bases? All it will find is garbage. > My point is that just calling him names has no substance, but mocking his source specifically does. He is the source. He wrote this stuff under his own volition.
We're supposed to be engineers. Criticising a concept based on conjecture and insult is unbecoming of our culture.
The entire thing is nothing but conjecture. No real software has been produced by the concept to date, except more garbage software that takes hundreds of thousands of lines where a few thousand would do.
And to be clear, Beads and Gastown are unbecoming of our “culture” and any self respecting engineer would recoil in horror at the concept.
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I don't think the op meant Gas Town itself (if they did, my bad), but what has Yegge done with Gas Town? By now it should have released some amazing thing if Gas Town increases productivity so much.
What has Yegge done with Gas Town? Well for one, he has posted a bunch of blog content about it which has generated chatter like this and increased his geek mindshare. Just because he's operating in the realm of smart nerds doesn't mean he is immune to the value-inverting effects of social media.
Or those of hype, e.g. AI hype.
I also simply detest how Gas Town is modeled fundamentally on an extractive and destructive metaphor, the 19th century factory. I want to live in a verdant software garden, not a dystopian industrialist hellscape.
In my view the StrongDM guys are on the right long-term path.
Serious question - there's a lot of fluff talking about Gas Town, but has Gas Town shipping something in public that can be evaluated without all of this surrounding hype and blogposting? At this point it should be clear that Gas Town has done something we can evaluate the value of.
> Having spent six weeks or so using Gas Town across multiple simultaneous projects, I believe I can describe the shift concretely. The bottleneck migrates from coding speed to the rate at which you can generate ideas, write specifications, and validate outputs. You are no longer limited by how fast you can build. You are limited by how fast you can think. Interesting: > Kubernetes asks “Is it running?” Gas Town asks…
Sounds like the typical AI post slop.
My experience is that Agentic Coding can legitimately get you mostly-working software. You do, however, still need to spend a few days groking, validating, and usually nudging/whacking it to conform to the shape you intended vs what the agent inferred. It is pretty magical to go from brainstorming an idea in the evening, having ChatGPT Pro spit out a long list of beads to implement it, leaving it running over night i…
It's magical until you start going through the code carefully, line by line, and find yourself typing at the agent: YOU DID WHAT NOW? Then, when you read a few more lines and realise that neither AI nor human will be able to debug the codebase once ten more features are added you find yourself typing: REVERT. EVERYTHING.
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This seems to be an AI-generated post where the "author" never reveals building any successful product or even tangible project with Gas Town.
It's like Web 4.0 zombo.com
edit: was "is your imagination". Changed to fully match https://genius.com/Zombo-zombocom-lyrics
I'm a long-time Steve Yegge fan but a major Gas Town hater (now Gas City too, I guess). It's doubling down on all the wrong metaphors. I also simply detest how Gas Town is modeled fundamentally on an extractive and destructive metaphor, the 19th century factory. I want to live in a verdant software garden, not a dystopian industrialist hellscape. In my view the StrongDM guys are on the right long-term path.
I actually think the naming is apt because we are on the starting stages of a second Industrial Revolution.
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> If its all obviously shit then it shouldn't be that hard. Maybe point Claude at it and ask it to find stupid stuff. What does that even mean? Am I supposed to point Claude at garbage code bases? All it will find is garbage. > My point is that just calling him names has no substance, but mocking his source specifically does. He is the source. He wrote this stuff under his own volition.
What it means is that it is easy to shit on other people's work. Much harder to give constructive criticism - especially on what looks like a throwaway account.
Case in point: no one talks about beads or gastown on HN because it’s crap that no one uses. Even *claw and that dumb fad get more mileage. meanwhile, CC vs Codex is an ever ongoing battle and Anthropic employees announce policy changes in “Tell HN” posts which stay on the front page for days.