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> AFAIK, we still don't live in a world where the moneyed class get to set the rules about who is allowed to exist in "real life". I mean thats just the legal system, its also deciding what is taught in schools, or churches (other religions are available). Currently in the USA there is "tone policing" about trans people. Laws are being put in place to enforce a certain style of living for people who are trans. Regard…

> each platform has its own tone, be that X, bluesky, the local darts club, PTA, or church. that tone is enforced by the people who support/take part in that platform. You are abusing the meaning of the word "platform" to try to create a false equivalence that can be used to justify the absurdity that present-day Twitter is.

> justify the absurdity that present-day Twitter is.

Present day twitter is one man's increasingly sad slide into authoritarian/contrarianism. It is a mess of idiocy and malignant individualism.

My point is, that twitter is nothing different, it has it's own tone. If you notice it, then twitter is not the place for you anymore. If you don't then twitter is the right place for you.

Re: X Randomly Banning Users for "Inauthentic Behavior"

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> each platform has its own tone, be that X, bluesky, the local darts club, PTA, or church. that tone is enforced by the people who support/take part in that platform. You are abusing the meaning of the word "platform" to try to create a false equivalence that can be used to justify the absurdity that present-day Twitter is.

> justify the absurdity that present-day Twitter is. Present day twitter is one man's increasingly sad slide into authoritarian/contrarianism. It is a mess of idiocy and malignant individualism. My point is, that twitter is nothing different, it has it's own tone. If you notice it, then twitter is not the place for you anymore. If you don't then twitter is the right place for you.

> My point is, that twitter is nothing different

And my point is that Twitter is different because it has become a direct instrument from one single man to proselytize and shape the conversation.

> If you notice it, then twitter is not the place for you anymore. If you don't then twitter is the right place for you

By your logic, I don't belong anywhere because I notice the tone everywhere.

Re: X Randomly Banning Users for "Inauthentic Behavior"

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Posting here since I am curious if any friends on HN have faced the same AI based banning. I have had a Twitter account since like 2008 and they just did this- like folks on reddit are reporting appeals just get robo-rejected. Is there any way to reach a human at X? I have some SWEs and SREs in my linkedin account as second and third person contacts but reaching out there just feels wrong. Putting AI in charge of Aut…

> Is there any way to reach a human at X?

They do read the appeals. I know this because I was falsely permanently suspended, without lawful reasons and without prior notice, with an account in good standing, a few years ago.

After writing several appeals over the years, in which I even mentioned article 19 of the UN UDHR (which pretty much mentions everyone has the right of freedom of expression and freedom of speech), and after receiving several rejections with the standard boilerplate text I got a very angry human written reply from somebody working at the Safety and Security team mentioning amongst other things I should never try to appeal again, and that they would automatically reject every appeal if I would. Or at least, that was basically the gist of it.

And I tried it once afterwards, and they didn't lie about that.

This was after the purchase of Twitter by Elon Musk, by the way.

So yes, they do read appeals (even before the Elon purchase likely). But they don't care.

Re: X Randomly Banning Users for "Inauthentic Behavior"

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My X account was banned about a week ago. I use X in an unusual way: I open up fifty tabs a day of people I want to read and see what they've posted in the past day. But I don't use the default feed at all. I often 'like' posts, but I very rarely post anything myself. I don't think I violated any X rules. But I can see why an algorithm think I look a little bit bot-ish. I appealed the ban but AI declined my appeal. I…

You'll be banned again - using a "residential IP" to appear domestic is a primary method used for accessing compromised accounts. We dissuade use of "privacy VPN" services for all users, as some of those services use the host as an exit node for unknown VPN traffic.

Do you work for them?

Re: X Randomly Banning Users for "Inauthentic Behavior"

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We simply need open, decentralized or distributed platforms. Nostr is not that excellent, but it works, and have a potential to became "unified personal web platform", take a look at it.

Isn't that just Mastodon? Why would I use Nostr instead?

For several reasons:

- Nostr is generally much lighter; it can even be served behind Tor without having a public IP, there's no need to maintain a web server etc. There are compact, self-contained relays like Haven, for example, which are a single go install-able app that includes everything needed on the server side, with practically zero setup.

- There are various clients, including mobile and web as well as desktop, which is enough to satisfy pretty much everyone's tastes.

- There's also an economic model that could be the future of journalism: everyone publishes what they want, and those who enjoy it can make micro-payments, if they wish, to support the publisher.

For now, it's a toy with many abandoned experiments, while Mastodon is a walking dead, having never really taken off. In other words, as they stand, neither of them is working. But Nostr has the potential to become the communication hub for many; for instance, there's already a Matrix-like service (0xchat and potentially whitenoise) that supports chat, audio, and live video, requiring only Coturn and a Nostr relay. There's also "long form" support, meaning personal blogs all on the same technology.

In other words, in a short space of time, on Nostr you can have:

- A personal blog-style site

- A personal Twitter/X

- Personal chat with audio and video

- Private notes if you need to jot something down on the go

- A search engine and address book that could allows with different access levels, a real address book usage for personal contacts.

Potentially all in a single, complete and lightweight deployment. There isn't the burden of federation, which makes many hesitate to activate it because, depending on who they federate with, they find a massive amount of resources consumed. It's essentially text, binary blobs, and near-real-time communications all in one. Haven is the first piece of the puzzle, MOAR is the successor in the making, but eventually, there will be one that integrates 0xchat and a web client, all-in-one.

The Fediverse hasn't achieved this and doesn't have the characteristics to do so.

Then again, if we're honest, the old Usenet did it better, but it's dead to most people, whereas Nostr is alive. People only dislike it because it comes from a crypto community, and many are biased against anyone from that world regardless.

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