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How to breathe in fewer microplastics in your home

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Re: How to breathe in fewer microplastics in your home

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Thanks for threwing this ball, so let me ask: Is there any real difference between the more expensive shelf places ("on eye height") than the more cheap one? Id suspect its just intelligent re-labelling/re-packing for different brands? Or is there really a difference in the quality/taste of the expensive ones? In my country, it doesnt matter if i spend 2 bucks or 5 bucks in the supermarket

> Or is there really a difference in the quality/taste of the expensive ones? If we are still talking about tea, then of course there are huge differences. And the best tea is not packaged in individual tea bags (also it's not sold in supermarkets unless it's a country with a very high tea culture). So at the low end you would have tea that is grown with lots of chemicals, plucked by machines or by badly paid workers…

And to add - tea is graded at source, and buyers purchase based on grade. So a low quality tea bag will have tea that is objectively worse than a high quality one, while the best tea is never near a bag.

Re: How to breathe in fewer microplastics in your home

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Half the microplastics in our body is from cars. So move to a car-free city district or remote cabin (and then driving train+bike so not to contribute to the problem?).

If cars are causing microplastic pollution, Im sure bikes and trains are too. Im seems using rubber/plastic compounds for tyres and brakes is always going to cause this issue on any vehicle.

Because cars are intrinsicly an inefficient mode of transportation, even if other forms also cause this problem it would still be orders of magnitude less than cars.

Re: How to breathe in fewer microplastics in your home

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Realistically, the best thing you can do to reduce your microplastics intake seems to be to avoid microwaving in plastic bowls and to avoid using plastic bottles for soft drinks and water. (Though cans actually use a thin film of plastic inside too.. so, maybe just avoid packaged water?) Beyond your personal intake though there's bigger fish. Car tyres are the #1 source for microplastics entering rivers, and it's not…

> Car tyres are the #1 source for microplastics entering rivers, and it's not even close (they're thought to be the source of up to 85% of all environmental microplastics).

Do EVs create more microplastics than ICE vehicles then?

Re: How to breathe in fewer microplastics in your home

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Realistically, the best thing you can do to reduce your microplastics intake seems to be to avoid microwaving in plastic bowls and to avoid using plastic bottles for soft drinks and water. (Though cans actually use a thin film of plastic inside too.. so, maybe just avoid packaged water?) Beyond your personal intake though there's bigger fish. Car tyres are the #1 source for microplastics entering rivers, and it's not…

> Car tyres are the #1 source for microplastics entering rivers, and it's not even close (they're thought to be the source of up to 85% of all environmental microplastics). Do EVs create more microplastics than ICE vehicles then?

yes

Re: How to breathe in fewer microplastics in your home

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I would prefer to keep on topic and discuss the original points personally, but it seems people keep trying to derail into berating each other, commenting on peoples behavoir and pointing out forum rules. Seems strange to me but I get dragged in all the same. Is it not factual that trains have brake pads which wear down and cause carcenogenic micro dust? Seems I made that factual point and it was ignored in favour of…

> Seems strange to me but I get dragged in all the same. Maybe it‘s a you thing? > Is it not factual that trains have brake pads which wear down and cause carcenogenic micro dust? Not a point I have contested, but yet another suggestion without any sense of scale, and so far you have refused to address that aspect of five or six replies on the topic. Maybe that’s why you are inviting so much hostility?

> yet another suggestion without any sense of scale

> Maybe that’s why you are inviting so much hostility?

If you are somebody who resorts to hostility just because somebody puts forward an argument without full explanation and rationale, then you have my sympathies.

Looking at your other replies in the thread and what other people are replying to you, it seems that you are either a really hostile person or just having a really bad day. I hope it is the latter for your own sake.

Like others I wish you well and hope that you can find peace without having to engage in mud sliging against anonymous people on the internet.

Re: How to breathe in fewer microplastics in your home

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Most of the bike chain lube at my local bike shop is basically just pure PFAS forever chemicals. Might as well cook with non-stick pans if you are applying chain lube to your bike at home.

Why, do you lick your bicycle chain?

I guess you think its fine for us to release PFAS chemicals into the environment as long as we are not licking them?

Re: How to breathe in fewer microplastics in your home

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With cars there are higher energies involved, and things like that tend to grow with square or cube of the energy. I wouldn't be surprised if car was causing orders of magnitude more plastic pollution than a bike per person per mile.

Thats obvious and goes without saying, but then I didnt state any specific metrics, only that they both casue the same thing even in different amounts

The dose makes the poison.

Re: How to breathe in fewer microplastics in your home

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The aluminum relations are easily explained with the observation that healthy kidneys excrete aluminum well, whereas unhealthy kidneys don't and so it accumulates. There might also be similar variations in aluminum deposition in the brain depending on the brain's innate ability to wash out chemicals. In contrast, the excretory mechanisms of plastics seems less trustworthy. The user is deliberately and blatantly ignor…

It doesn't change the fact that there is no actual causal evidence. Perhaps the demented brains simply suck at flushing out microplastics as well. If you ever find people with more microplastics exposure have more dementia (like they did for asbestos and lung cancer), then you're onto something. But no rigorous study has found this yet. And if they do, you will hear of it immediately for sure, given how much reportin…

Strictly speaking, there is no “actual casual evidence” for anything, because there is hardly any stable definition for what casual evidence exactly is. Establishment of causality is commonly considered as requiring repetition and probabilistic reasoning.

In plain words, it’s your guess against theirs, except they had done research and published a paper with a claim and you are simply saying they are not rigorous enough. Could you point to more rigorous support of your claim?

Re: How to breathe in fewer microplastics in your home

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I wonder when and if microplastics will get it's Asbestos moment. Obviously they are not as carcinogenic, but it seems we don't have the full picture, and microplastics are present at an insanely higher degree than asbestos where.

Not as long as there are powerful car lobbies and the main source of microplastic will remain car tires. Instead, you have articles like this trying to tell people to look away from that main source of problem, and blame, say, indoors or food preparation, and skip details like how the homes with the most microplastic in them are… close to the highway.

Powerful oil lobbies didn't stop the important guy from starting a dumb war that tripled the price of gasoline. Why not?

Re: How to breathe in fewer microplastics in your home

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Why, do you lick your bicycle chain?

I guess you think its fine for us to release PFAS chemicals into the environment as long as we are not licking them?

No. But I'm not the one comparing something you don't touch to something you eat from, saying it's the same.
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