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WireGuard makes new Windows release following Microsoft signing resolution
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Re: WireGuard makes new Windows release following Microsoft signing resolution
#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
i am positive that you understand the spirit of what that saying means. incompetence is always more likely than [intentional, directed] malice. microsoft employees did not deliberately attack the wireguard project with a goal of taking it down for whatever grand scheme people's hatred cooks up. if you have evidence that microsoft did this deliberately to ruin the wireguard project, please forward it along to jason (t…
Except that the system that removes culpability, visibility and consequences of this kind of abuse is set up deliberately to avoid liability and consequences of such actions. This isn't a tee-hee accident, this is deliberate organizational design which removed any kind of bad consequences or even thought about what the software does to user from the engineers at Microsoft. They're happy about that. They now don't nee…
and even with all of that in mind, this was not a coordinated microsoft attack against wireguard. which was my point.
i am in no way defending microsoft. just pointing out that the conspiracy-theorists suggesting that some exec at microsoft specifically targeted wireguard for whatever nefarious purpose was, well, a conspiracy.
Re: WireGuard makes new Windows release following Microsoft signing resolution
#93As I mentioned in the mailing list post, the Microsoft paperwork shuffling matter got dealt with rather quickly, following all the attention the HN thread from the other day got. And now we're finally out with an update! NT programming is a lot of fun, though this release was quite challenging, because of all of the toolchain updates. On the plus side, we got to remove pre-Win10 support -- https://lists.zx2c4.com/pip…
I really appreciate what you wrote in that post re: dropping support for pre-Windows 10 operating systems.
I'd like to snag that latest previous version which still has compatibility with older OS's, anyone have a reliable link handy?
(I couldn't quickly find a "Previous Versions" list on their website)
Re: WireGuard makes new Windows release following Microsoft signing resolution
#94As I mentioned in the mailing list post, the Microsoft paperwork shuffling matter got dealt with rather quickly, following all the attention the HN thread from the other day got. And now we're finally out with an update! NT programming is a lot of fun, though this release was quite challenging, because of all of the toolchain updates. On the plus side, we got to remove pre-Win10 support -- https://lists.zx2c4.com/pip…
> following all the attention the HN thread from the other day got
That's great for you, and no offense, but what about developers who can't get buzz in a HN thread? Are they just doomed? Why is support only available to those who can raise a ruckus on social media?
Re: WireGuard makes new Windows release following Microsoft signing resolution
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
Good to know everything was resolved, but did you ever find out why your signing account was suspended? That's not something you brush off as haha silly Microsoft..
Apparently it's quite widespread, so I would assume a bug on their side. That's what support seemed to imply at least. We're still blocked at my company for one month+ now.
With Microsoft, I assume malice AND negligence first. The hostility they've shown toward their own users tells you everything you need to know.
Re: WireGuard makes new Windows release following Microsoft signing resolution
#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
It doesn't matter. They are doing things that are clearly hostile to users, they should pay dearly for it.
get mad at the shitty stuff they do (there is a lot!), not the fictitious things people come up with in hn comments.
It's so unhelpful for people to get mad at made up crap. It completely weakens the impact of the pushback. Like if someone is in a position where people are getting mad over all sorts of made up stuff anyway, what's even the point of avoiding actually doing any of the things they're mad about? Might as well get something out of it if the downside doesn't change either way.
Re: WireGuard makes new Windows release following Microsoft signing resolution
#97Since the impact of the account is presumably known to Microsoft (through telemetry etc), they probably know when these accounts get turned off, and can mark them in case the owner comes back and tries recovery.
Microsoft would not have to automatically and 100% correctly reinstate the account. The goal would be to get high level cases like this one in front of a knowledgable human before the locked account posts angry owner posts complaints in public (If Joe Bloe's defragmentation utility noone has ever heard of and only having 10 installs goes bad, noone would care.)
Here, they don't have to be perfect - you just need to have enough signal-to-voice ratio that employing a very small number of people outweighs the cost to PR and execs to deal with these cases, and to not let accounts get hacked through recovery.
The response from Microsoft [1] is not great, or makes me hopeful.
``` Pavan Davuluri, Microsoft's President of Windows and Devices, said both Idrassi and Donenfeld should have their accounts restored "soon."
"We've seen these reports and are actively working to resolve this as quickly as possible," Davuluri Xeeted. "We've reached out to VeraCrypt and have spoken to Jason at WireGuard, they should be back up and running soon."
He explained that both deactivations were executed as part of the Windows Hardware Program's account verification procedures.
The company published a blog in October, giving devs a two-week warning that if their accounts had not been verified since April 2024, Microsoft would issue mandatory account verification notifications.
"We worked hard to make sure partners understood this was coming, from emails, banners, reminders," said Davuluri.
"And we know that sometimes things still get missed. We're taking this as an opportunity to review how we communicate changes like this and make sure we're doing it better."
```
[1] https://www.theregister.com/2026/04/09/microsoft_dev_account...
Re: WireGuard makes new Windows release following Microsoft signing resolution
#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
I really appreciate what you wrote in that post re: dropping support for pre-Windows 10 operating systems.
I'd like to snag that latest previous version which still has compatibility with older OS's, anyone have a reliable link handy? (I couldn't quickly find a "Previous Versions" list on their website)
It looks like all the old files are still hosted on the server. You can just replace the version number in the download links with one of the tags from https://git.zx2c4.com/wireguard-windows.
Re: WireGuard makes new Windows release following Microsoft signing resolution
#99LibreOffice, VeraCrypt, WireGuard. 2 questions: Whats next? Is that a pattern?
Was the issue resolved for VeraCrypt as well?
Re: WireGuard makes new Windows release following Microsoft signing resolution
#100As a wireguard user myself (even on the lone Windows machine that I still begrundingly have), I am happy that this problem could have been resolved. I am just wondering - if there had not been this kind of public outcry and outrage that Mr. Donenfeld discounts in his announcement message, would the issue have been fixed by now? What are individual developers of "lesser" (less important, less visible, less used) softw…
They would be ignored. Having an audience is key to getting problems solved, whether it’s a lone hacker or a large corporation. Without an audience, you have no leverage. At that point you might as well create a new Windows account and re-apply, since that would have more luck than getting around a “we’ve closed your account and there’s no appeal process” barrier. If that sounds Kafkaesque, it is. It’s a small miracl…
It makes me think tech communities need to lobby for more laws to ensure fair access to platforms, app stores, etc. Be that at least side loading apps, etc.
Otherwise we’ll eventually all get lost in the kafkaesque technocracies.
Less for moral reading, but to keep from being squashed by the weight of tech.