Take all of the data, take all of the credit, take all of the money, and none of the blame. That would be a better mission statement for OpenAI at this point.
I think you could apply this to most, if not all, billionaires in the world today.
OpenAI backs Illinois bill that would limit when AI labs can be held liable
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Re: OpenAI backs Illinois bill that would limit when AI labs can be held liable
#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wasnt this as accessible pre AI with just Google search too?
Evidently as it needs to be in the training data for the next word predictor to work
I found it exceptionally good at finding reactions that you wouldn't find online to produce some of these chemical compounds by changing them together, only something a very educated chemist could do which is why people are concerened about this.
Re: OpenAI backs Illinois bill that would limit when AI labs can be held liable
#93So they did the math and worked out it's cheaper and easier to lobby the government instead of working to make their product safe. And these are the people that a lot programmers want to give the keys to the kingdom. Idiocracy really is in full effect.
> instead of working to make their product safe Make a nondeterministic product safe how?
Is this the first time you have heard of AI safety?
Lots of articles you could read on the subject and answer your own question.
(Unless your angle is: akshually, you can never make anything 100% safe)
Re: OpenAI backs Illinois bill that would limit when AI labs can be held liable
#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wasnt this as accessible pre AI with just Google search too?
Craigslist invented prostitution, Facebook invented suicide, and OpenAI invented terrorism. Ask any trial lawyer in America! The world was perfect in the 1990s without any of these things.
Replace ‘invented’ with ‘facilitated’
Re: OpenAI backs Illinois bill that would limit when AI labs can be held liable
#95This seems par for the course for OpenAI/Sam Altman. Unfortunately they are not the first company to try and externalize their costs, and they will not be the last. Serious question, maybe a bit naive: Is there anything we can do to push back against and discourage the externalization of costs onto others? Is this simply a matter of greed and profit-seeking outweighing one's morals (assuming one has them to begin wit…
That depends on your definition of "we". As a society, we can regulate companies and punish the offenders (e.g. don't dump toxic waste into sources of drinking water or you'll get prosecuted). As individuals, there's not much we can do directly. How to translate individual actions into societal action is kind of the fundamental question of civilization, and if there's a uniform solution for how to achieve it, I don't think we've managed to come up with it yet.
Re: OpenAI backs Illinois bill that would limit when AI labs can be held liable
#96So they did the math and worked out it's cheaper and easier to lobby the government instead of working to make their product safe. And these are the people that a lot programmers want to give the keys to the kingdom. Idiocracy really is in full effect.
> instead of working to make their product safe Make a nondeterministic product safe how?
I'm creating a new start up called QuantumFlop Electricity - there's a 10% chance it will cause a black hole to open up in the Atlantic Ocean that may eventually consume us all but a 50% chance we'll have unlimited clean energy. We'll never know for sure if at any point that black hole may open as it's borrowing energy from the 81st dimension, but the upside seems pretty good.
Should I be able to get on with it?
Re: OpenAI backs Illinois bill that would limit when AI labs can be held liable
#97I forget, wasn't OpenAI the company that was formed as a nonprofit to limit the risks of LLMs? Founded by a bunch of visionaries scared of what they had wrought and anxious to lead so they could make sure it was only used responsibly?
That was before it was discovered that these LLM have incredible monetary potential.
I think Mr Altman had this idea from the beginning, and in his own, "can't stop lying" way, he lied.
Re: OpenAI backs Illinois bill that would limit when AI labs can be held liable
#98I have made both GPT 5.4 and Opus 4.6 produce me content on creating neurotoxic agents from items you can get at most everyday stores. It struggled to suggest how to source phosphorus, but eventually lead me to some ebay listings that sell phosphorus elemental 'decorations' and also lead me towards real!! blackmarket codewords for sourcing such materials. It coached me how to: stay safe, what materials I need, how to…
While scary, information like this has been pretty accessible for 20-30 years now. In the wild west days of the early internet, there were whole forums devoted to "stuff the government doesn't want you to know" (Temple Of The Screaming Electron, anyone?). I suppose the friction is scariest part, every year the IQ required to end the world drops by a point, but motivated and mildly intelligent people have been able to…
Information and competency are not the same thing: I know how to build a nuke, I can't actually build one.
AI is, and always had been, automation. For narrow AI, automation of narrow tasks. For LLMs, automation of anything that can be done as text.
It has always been difficult to agree on the competence of the automation, given ML is itself fully automated Goodhart's Law exploitation, but ML has always been about automation.
On the plus side, if the METR graphs on LLM competence in computer science are also true of chemical and biological hazards (or indeed nuclear hazards), they're currently (like the earliest 3D-printed firearms) a bigger threat to the user than to the attempted victim.
On the minus side, we're just now reaching the point where LLM-based vulnerability searches are useful rather than nonsense, hence Anthropic's Glasswing, and even a few years back some researches found 40,000 toxic molecules by flipping a min(harm) to a max(harm), so for people who know what they're doing and have a little experience the possibilities for novel harm are rapidly rising: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9544280/
Re: OpenAI backs Illinois bill that would limit when AI labs can be held liable
#99I have made both GPT 5.4 and Opus 4.6 produce me content on creating neurotoxic agents from items you can get at most everyday stores. It struggled to suggest how to source phosphorus, but eventually lead me to some ebay listings that sell phosphorus elemental 'decorations' and also lead me towards real!! blackmarket codewords for sourcing such materials. It coached me how to: stay safe, what materials I need, how to…
While scary, information like this has been pretty accessible for 20-30 years now. In the wild west days of the early internet, there were whole forums devoted to "stuff the government doesn't want you to know" (Temple Of The Screaming Electron, anyone?). I suppose the friction is scariest part, every year the IQ required to end the world drops by a point, but motivated and mildly intelligent people have been able to…
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Professionalism/Anarchist_Cook...
We work in the dark
we do what we can
we give what we have.
Our doubt is our passion, and our passion is our task.
The rest is the madness of art.
Re: OpenAI backs Illinois bill that would limit when AI labs can be held liable
#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
Evidently as it needs to be in the training data for the next word predictor to work
I found it exceptionally good at finding reactions that you wouldn't find online to produce some of these chemical compounds by changing them together, only something a very educated chemist could do which is why people are concerened about this.
I suspect if you gave it purely shakespeare as its training data it couldnt do science anymore, hence my comment. It's still novel, impressive work though, I'm not shitting on the clanker entirely