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Netflix Prices Went Up Again – I Bought a DVD Player Instead

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Re: Netflix Prices Went Up Again – I Bought a DVD Player Instead

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Post by mingus88 »

tombert wrote: post #56
donohoe wrote: post #21

Not a lawyer but... if you have the DVD its legal to make a backup digital copy. I am thinking the same thing. Most recent movies are available for under $20 per DVD - and there are tons of deals. You can get the 4 lego movies for $5 on DVD on Amazon right now. A "Tom Cruise 10-Movie Collection" is $12. You get the idea. Get the DVD. Make a legal backup. Keep the physical DVD in storage. You now "own" the movie (or T…

> if you have the DVD its legal to make a backup digital copy. Is this actually true? I thought there was inherent illegality to cracking the DRM on DVDs. Granted, I doubt anyone is going to come after you for making a backup of a legitimate copy, but I think strictly speaking it's still illegal. I am also not a lawyer.

This was a big issue back in the DVDCSS days. The DMCA explicitly forbids bypassing protective measures. Doesn’t matter who owns the media, the copyright holder owns the content.

17 U.S.C. § 1201(a)(1)(A)

Which was the beginning of the end for ownership vs purchasing a license. That thing you paid for isn’t yours.

Re: Netflix Prices Went Up Again – I Bought a DVD Player Instead

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Post by iwontberude »

donohoe wrote: post #21

Not a lawyer but... if you have the DVD its legal to make a backup digital copy. I am thinking the same thing. Most recent movies are available for under $20 per DVD - and there are tons of deals. You can get the 4 lego movies for $5 on DVD on Amazon right now. A "Tom Cruise 10-Movie Collection" is $12. You get the idea. Get the DVD. Make a legal backup. Keep the physical DVD in storage. You now "own" the movie (or T…

I'll just continue to take the DVDs out of my neighbor's trash and play those instead and disregard licensing entirely.*

* Usenet

Re: Netflix Prices Went Up Again – I Bought a DVD Player Instead

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Post by kllrnohj »

Giefo6ah wrote: post #30
gfody wrote: post #16

720x480 4:2:0 YCbCr doesn't look great on modern screens

It's often better than a 5 Mbps 1080p

Since DVDs are ~5mbps mpeg2, no, no it isn't. 5 mbps h264 is dramatically better.

Now, when compared to blu-ray... That's different. Very, very different.

Re: Netflix Prices Went Up Again – I Bought a DVD Player Instead

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Post by tracker1 »

I would probably go Blu-Ray at least to have higher resolution content... Ripping isn't too bad (I use make-mkv then re-encode with handbrake). I don't really notice going up from 1080p, but really notice going below 1080p content. I also don't mind h.265's blurry handling of degradation over the blocky/chunky h.264... I haven't really observed enough lower bitrate AV1 to compare.

I have a Shield TV connected through my AVR and it works pretty well for content directly from my nas/cifs/smb via Kodi.

Re: Netflix Prices Went Up Again – I Bought a DVD Player Instead

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Post by tracker1 »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #84
donohoe wrote: post #21

Not a lawyer but... if you have the DVD its legal to make a backup digital copy. I am thinking the same thing. Most recent movies are available for under $20 per DVD - and there are tons of deals. You can get the 4 lego movies for $5 on DVD on Amazon right now. A "Tom Cruise 10-Movie Collection" is $12. You get the idea. Get the DVD. Make a legal backup. Keep the physical DVD in storage. You now "own" the movie (or T…

If you buy one that has a VUDU code, and go on moviesanywhere.com you can now link your VUDU account, your Apple iTunes account and your Google Movies account, and whoever else, and the movie unlocks on all those other streaming services. So if you buy a BluRay movie, you can stream it on your favorite streaming service provider thanks to MovisAnywhere (run by the movie industry - the one rare good thing they did). I…

It's also worth looking into if your local library offers Kanopy services.

Re: Netflix Prices Went Up Again – I Bought a DVD Player Instead

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Post by babypuncher »

tombert wrote: post #56
donohoe wrote: post #21

Not a lawyer but... if you have the DVD its legal to make a backup digital copy. I am thinking the same thing. Most recent movies are available for under $20 per DVD - and there are tons of deals. You can get the 4 lego movies for $5 on DVD on Amazon right now. A "Tom Cruise 10-Movie Collection" is $12. You get the idea. Get the DVD. Make a legal backup. Keep the physical DVD in storage. You now "own" the movie (or T…

> if you have the DVD its legal to make a backup digital copy. Is this actually true? I thought there was inherent illegality to cracking the DRM on DVDs. Granted, I doubt anyone is going to come after you for making a backup of a legitimate copy, but I think strictly speaking it's still illegal. I am also not a lawyer.

I am also NAL, but it almost certainly is legal to make backups for personal use. Breaking the encryption is the usual legal hangup, though there is no real enforcement on this front and nobody is stopping you from using Handbrake or MakeMKV.

More importantly however, is the fact that there isn't a meaningful argument that making backups of physical media you own is ethically wrong.

Re: Netflix Prices Went Up Again – I Bought a DVD Player Instead

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Post by mingus88 »

mapontosevenths wrote: post #66
yellottyellott wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TrueNAS + AppleTV + Infuse + Tailscale is my setup. Also iTunes has Movies for $5, but it has DRM, which bit me since I always remembered their mp3s being DRM-free back in the day being a big deal.

That's ok if you don't care about sound much. Apple prevents local playback apps from playing back Atmos audio. It's fine if you only want 5.1 though. There used to be some limitations with Dolby Vision as well, but I think those have mostly been straightened out now.

Yeah if Apple ever allows audio passthru then the appleTV would dethrone the aging Nvidia shield as the best streamer on the market

I have a modest AVR and 7 channel setup and still watch movies on my shield which is still getting android updates

Re: Netflix Prices Went Up Again – I Bought a DVD Player Instead

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Post by mrob »

MangoCoffee wrote: post #51

DVD discs is not good for long term storage. it can get scratch and became unusable. you want a NAS/PC then rip the dvd and use plex or Jellyfin to watch your collection.

DVDs are extremely robust against scratches, even more so than CDs. Unlike CDs, which have the data protected by only a thin layer of lacquer under the label, DVDs sandwich the data between two layers of polycarbonate. The error correction is improved too.

Unlike hard disks, they're practically immune to shock (e.g. being dropped). Unlike SSDs and unlike hard disks, they're immune to ESD. And even if you somehow manage to damage one, it's just one, not your whole collection.

Re: Netflix Prices Went Up Again – I Bought a DVD Player Instead

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Post by tehwebguy »

rahimnathwani wrote: post #64
donohoe wrote: post #21

Not a lawyer but... if you have the DVD its legal to make a backup digital copy. I am thinking the same thing. Most recent movies are available for under $20 per DVD - and there are tons of deals. You can get the 4 lego movies for $5 on DVD on Amazon right now. A "Tom Cruise 10-Movie Collection" is $12. You get the idea. Get the DVD. Make a legal backup. Keep the physical DVD in storage. You now "own" the movie (or T…

The vertical resolution of a DVD is either 480 (NTSC) or 576 (PAL). This usually matched the visible vertical resolution of the TV you were using. A 1080p screen has 6 times as many pixels as an NTSC DVD. A 4k screen has 24 times as many pixels as an NTSC DVD.

I don’t think DVDs look bad on a 1080p TV, others that assume they will may be surprised!
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