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Creating the Futurescape for the Fifth Element (2019)

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Re: Creating the Futurescape for the Fifth Element (2019)

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Post by lamasery »

detourdog wrote: post #28
prhn wrote: post #21

I'm just here to share my love for this film. I'm a big movie fan. I've been watching the Fifth Element since high school, and I've only grown to appreciate it more and more as a film as I get older. It's so full of life, creativity, color, humor, and themes we can all relate to (purpose, love, loss, etc). This is peek Bruce Willis, and the movie is filled with other exceptional actors including Gary Oldman and Ian H…

I was flipping channels in a hotel and I assume the Peter Jackson hobbit/Lord of the Rings were on. The scene I watched was some sort of interior castle scene and it looked really bad. I felt like it was very flat and cardboardy and filmed on VHS.

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Re: Creating the Futurescape for the Fifth Element (2019)

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Post by lamasery »

mgoetzke wrote: post #43
vidarh wrote: post #41

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Fifth Element is pretty much Besson doing Valerian before he was able to get funding for Valerian, so we kinda did get a spiritual sequel of sorts. Unfortunately, while I've grown to like the Valerian movie, when compared to Fifth Element it would seem that Besson should have been given a far tighter budget for Valerian rather than the apparent near free reign he got.

For Valerian he should have been better at casting people that had chemistry and felt real

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Re: Creating the Futurescape for the Fifth Element (2019)

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Post by notachatbot123 »

throwa356262 wrote: post #40
notachatbot123 wrote: post #14

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There is zero history of her programming. This is a scam, using her name.

That is a very valid concern, but in this case she is actually "involved": https://xcancel.com/BrianRoemmele/status/2041397710113435659...

And her last posts before these were shilling NFTs in 2022.

Re: Creating the Futurescape for the Fifth Element (2019)

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Post by [deleted] »

prhn wrote: post #21

I'm just here to share my love for this film. I'm a big movie fan. I've been watching the Fifth Element since high school, and I've only grown to appreciate it more and more as a film as I get older. It's so full of life, creativity, color, humor, and themes we can all relate to (purpose, love, loss, etc). This is peek Bruce Willis, and the movie is filled with other exceptional actors including Gary Oldman and Ian H…

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Re: Creating the Futurescape for the Fifth Element (2019)

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Post by steve1977 »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #58
steve1977 wrote: post #44

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The cast is just perfect IMHO. Super green! ; Also one of my all time favorites.

I thought slightly less of the casting for Fifth Element after I learned about the "Born Sexy Yesterday" thing in conjunction with Luc Besson's personal life. Same with Leon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Born_Sexy_Yesterday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0thpEyEwi80 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luc_Besson#Personal_life While I enjoyed watching the movies, I feel like I would have to point out this dynamic if I wer…

Hmm, I mean that "thing" appears to be the opinion of one guy on YouTube. Which he is entitled to of course, but I don't necessarily agree.

Especially considering he's using Leeloo as "the most quintessential example" but then also "emphasizes that the Born Sexy Yesterday trope intensifies the dynamic by positioning women as submissive rather than equal partners", which is clearly not really the case here.

Or for example a scene early on where Korben tries to kiss her, to which she reacts with a gun to his head and says "never without my permission". Doesn't really sound very innocent or without agency to me.

I get the point of the analysis and it's certainly not completely wrong, but it seems to be a bit far-fetched and incoherent to be honest.

Re: Creating the Futurescape for the Fifth Element (2019)

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Post by BoiledCabbage »

pavel_lishin wrote: post #54
prhn wrote: post #21

I'm just here to share my love for this film. I'm a big movie fan. I've been watching the Fifth Element since high school, and I've only grown to appreciate it more and more as a film as I get older. It's so full of life, creativity, color, humor, and themes we can all relate to (purpose, love, loss, etc). This is peek Bruce Willis, and the movie is filled with other exceptional actors including Gary Oldman and Ian H…

I cannot imagine anyone but Chris Tucker playing Ruby Rhod. He's one of the best parts of the film.

> Chris Tucker's character here isn't for everyone

Yeah this comment to me is incredibly surprising. Chris Tucker played an absolutely incredible character in that movie. So creative, so well executed, so memorable.

He was up there with Bruce Willis as top two in that film.

Such a brilliant movie - and definitely feels like a lost art.

Re: Creating the Futurescape for the Fifth Element (2019)

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Post by Joel_Mckay »

NoSalt wrote: post #75
Joel_Mckay wrote: post #9

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Adam Savage covered the Mondoshawan props on his channel last year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf5dPrmBvwE It was a fun film, but Chris Tucker broke the pacing too many times for a general audience. Even now on rottentomatoes his role still distracts focus from the character arcs. https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/fifth_element Was a cult classic for sure, but nowhere near Blade Runner as a film. =3

I cannot disagree enough. Chris Tucker's Ruby is just what this film needs. With everybody else wearing their "this is serious" face, Ruby being Ruby is a great bit of levity that really adds to this film.

What made the plot unique was Korben and Zorg never actually directly met one another in their on-screen struggles. Most never notice such details as a traditional Bouffon character often blinds viewers to subtly, and thus some lose the story arc in the chaos. It is just a poor production gamble to place Rudy, Jar Jar Binks, or most Jim Carrey characters in a genre outside absurdist slapstick comedy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bouffon

Blade Runner had its own issues, but was a better film done with far less. =3

Re: Creating the Futurescape for the Fifth Element (2019)

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Post by stephen_cagle »

pavel_lishin wrote: post #54
prhn wrote: post #21

I'm just here to share my love for this film. I'm a big movie fan. I've been watching the Fifth Element since high school, and I've only grown to appreciate it more and more as a film as I get older. It's so full of life, creativity, color, humor, and themes we can all relate to (purpose, love, loss, etc). This is peek Bruce Willis, and the movie is filled with other exceptional actors including Gary Oldman and Ian H…

I cannot imagine anyone but Chris Tucker playing Ruby Rhod. He's one of the best parts of the film.

I'm blown away by the idea of not using Chris Tucker for Ruby Rhod. It is like imagining anyone but Hugh Jackman as Wolverine. They are basically perfect castings.

Re: Creating the Futurescape for the Fifth Element (2019)

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Post by jrm4 »

vidarh wrote: post #41
throwa356262 wrote: post #37

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I think this one deserved at least one sequel. Speaking of sequels, who in the star wars universe will get their own show next? Based on who is left, i put my money on Exogorth.

Fifth Element is pretty much Besson doing Valerian before he was able to get funding for Valerian, so we kinda did get a spiritual sequel of sorts. Unfortunately, while I've grown to like the Valerian movie, when compared to Fifth Element it would seem that Besson should have been given a far tighter budget for Valerian rather than the apparent near free reign he got.

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Re: Creating the Futurescape for the Fifth Element (2019)

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Post by CyberDildonics »

peacebeard wrote: post #45
0x3f wrote: post #35

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But I wonder at what point digital effects become 'good enough' in some sense that they never look aged beyond the containing film. At some point surely there's no more perceptible 'resolution' to be had.

In practice digital effects haven’t approached being convincing the way practical effects do. In many cases, especially when used liberally, digital effects still clock as amazing digital effects rather than reality. It can be enjoyable but I don’t see what would move forward other than recognizing cgi isnt the best solution for everything.

This is not true, you just don't notice the vast majority of effects. You sit down to watch a summer blockbuster, there are 1000 shots that have been altered, pretty much anything that isn't two people talking in a room.

The advertising tries to tell you "we did everything practical!", it's always a lie and you believe it.

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