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Dropping Cloudflare for Bunny.net

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Re: Dropping Cloudflare for Bunny.net

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Can anyone say why this is being downvoted? Seems like it makes sense to me, but this isn't my area of expertise.

Predictability matters. The whole point of paying someone else to handle a problem for you is that you don't have to worry about it. If you go all in on a provider and then suddenly find out that you've been switched to a paid plan in the middle of your vacation, that's not a place anyone wants to be. Saying there's no lock-in is nice, but that overlooks the fact that there most definitely is friction. What if there'…

Or your provider randomly decides you need to be on an enterprise plan: https://robindev.substack.com/p/cloudflare-took-down-our-web...

Re: Dropping Cloudflare for Bunny.net

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I'm currently running a SaaS on Cloudflare Workers + Pages. The developer experience is genuinely good, deploying serverless functions and static sites from the same repo has been seamless. But I hit a real issue recently: CDN edge caching served stale HTML after a deploy, and the service worker cached the bad response. Took a CDN purge from the dashboard to fix. The debugging experience when things go wrong at the e…

Bunny doesn’t have a free tier, but their greatest asset is that it has prepaid billing: there’s zero risk of running up a surprise six figure bill just because of being attacked, making a mistake with a deploy, or other sudden sources of resource usage. I’d rather my site go down than to be on the hook for hundreds of thousands, which many projects have no hope of generating from sudden spikes in traffic of any sour…

And this is why I am immediately shifting to bunny from cloudflare at this point.

A week ago I (a hobbyist running a small side project for a dollar or two a month in normal usage, so my account is marked as "individual") got hit with a ~$17,000 bill from Google cloud because some combination of key got leaked or my homelab got compromised, and the attacker consumed tens of thousands in gemini usage in only a few hours.

Google denied a rate adjustment, and haven't reached back out to me for a good few days now. My credit card denied the charge because it was over my credit limit by a good few thousand dollars and they suspected fraud, but now I am terrified of being taken to collections and ruining my prospects of renting an apartment due to my credit score/history being ruined, or them just taking me to court.

I am never going to use "use now pay later" services, especially with cloud portals where it's so hard to put in a actual cap, and the cloud provider not having any sane rate limits. I am fine paying if it was negligence or a mistake on my part as a very expensive lesson in security, but 17k is brutal.

The fact they don't have an easy way to hard cap usage (especially for an individual account) and have ineffective rate limits (how on earth is an account that pays a few dollars a month able to run up tens of thousands in just a few hours), makes me never want to use their (or any use now pay later with no easy caps or rate limits) service ever again. Or even a phone number to call.

Re: Dropping Cloudflare for Bunny.net

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R2 is pretty darn hard to beat. No egress, and only like $.57 per million read operations. If you're running a video streaming use case (and not using terabytes and caching or abusing your bandwidth) I found no one else compares.

Does anyone have thoughts or disagree on this in terms of pricing and cost effectiveness?

Re: Dropping Cloudflare for Bunny.net

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post #94

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Bunny doesn’t have a free tier, but their greatest asset is that it has prepaid billing: there’s zero risk of running up a surprise six figure bill just because of being attacked, making a mistake with a deploy, or other sudden sources of resource usage. I’d rather my site go down than to be on the hook for hundreds of thousands, which many projects have no hope of generating from sudden spikes in traffic of any sour…

And this is why I am immediately shifting to bunny from cloudflare at this point. A week ago I (a hobbyist running a small side project for a dollar or two a month in normal usage, so my account is marked as "individual") got hit with a ~$17,000 bill from Google cloud because some combination of key got leaked or my homelab got compromised, and the attacker consumed tens of thousands in gemini usage in only a few hou…

If you're in the USA contact your state AG + Senator and present your case. Mention that Google is abusing small owners due to their ineptitude in security practices, construct the argument that makes it appear Google is squeezing small users like a mob boss/cartel.

Also before doing this save anything important that Google owns (gmail, youtube videos, anything in storage). The leaders at Google are vengeful enough to completely lock you out for challenging them.

Re: Dropping Cloudflare for Bunny.net

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Very small caveat: A lot of the education space bans *.b-cdn.net due to malware, proxy tools, and other shenanigans.

That's interesting, we moved to Cloudflare R2 for our CDN solution, and we got reports from some european government institutions that our assets weren't loading, likely for similar reasons as you mention, so we rolled back whilst looking for options.

The solution was to move to Bunny, and that worked for everyone.

Re: Dropping Cloudflare for Bunny.net

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In the interests of transparent disclosure on such a positive blog post, It might be worth calling out that all the links on the page are all linked to the Bunny Affiliate Program. [1] [1] https://bunny.net/affiliate/

Yeah IANAL, but this sort of endorsement with undisclosed remuneration would probably run afoul of FTC guidelines, which is why you see disclaimers like "As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases" everywhere. The author seems to live in the UK, but a cursory search suggests there's something similar there as well.

Maybe the whole world is not in the U.S. What is the FTC? The Royal Air Force Flying Training Command?

Re: Dropping Cloudflare for Bunny.net

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oh no a euro a month for a service. How will we financially recover?

not everyone lives in the USA or earns USA based salaries. also I said this in a another thread, they charges 1$ even for single testing http request. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46873521

Feel free to use local services then, not every company has to support the entire world. Some are fine with a small slice. Expecting otherwise isn't sustainable for the sub trillion dollar non-monopolists companies, not without massive public support from the government at least.
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