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Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

#91
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I noticed the barcodes on the reporter's printed tickets in that video. I hope a nefarious actor doesn't freeze-frame it and reprint them.

This is another reason why etickets are used, they regenerate the barcodes

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

#92

Parking in my town can now only be paid via smartphone. Yes, almost everyone has one, but: there are still people who do not.

on a roadtrip i stopped in a small town for lunch with street parking paid by app. super frustrating that i needed to sit in my car and download an app and set up an account just to park for an hour in a town i'm never going back to

But you still did it, didn't you?

Congrats, you're an essential part of the problem.

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

#93
My 75-year-old, retired construction worker dad’s fingers are nearly useless on capacitive screens; half a century of handling cement apparently has that effect. His deep East Texas accent was still only semi comprehensible to Siri the last time I had him try with my phone.

He recently missed several notifications from his truck’s dealership that the part they ordered was in and ready for installation, because they sent text messages that he didn’t read, instead of ever calling and leaving a message when no one responded to the texts. I’m terrified that there’s going to be a doctor’s office sometime that does the same, with more serious consequences.

He’s fine flying as long as one of us can buy the ticket for him and he just needs his ID at the airport; I dread the day airlines start requiring their stupid apps.

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

#94

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I love it how they can't think of any other way to pay for parking than via smartphone, but if you just park there without paying, they'll offer you many ways to pay the fine.

For how long until paying the fine requires a smartphone? And then for how long until you go to jail for not having a smartphone ?

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Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

#95

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The problem with this argument is that forcing people to use technology, without proper training and against their will, introduces them to risks as well. Anyone with older parents/family can tell you the harms that come with phishing and other fraud scenarios that cost more than just accommodating people not using technology, both at the micro and macro level. Insulting people and bullying them into technology adopt…

Im going to be harsh, sorry. In this case nobody is forcing them to buy a dodgers ticket. It’s a completely optional and absurdly expensive luxury good that is purely for leisure. They can simply not but a ticket if they don't want to accept conditions of sale.

Yeah... I mean, who says I should have to put in wheelchair ramps for my ballpark that seats tens of thousands? I mean, so few people use/need them, I should just be able to refuse service to those people. Right?

/sarc

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

#96
My late mom couldn't receive the verification SMS from her bank. After investigation, it appeared it was actually an MMS that required a smartphone.

She could still go to her bank counter but service there degraded considerably for everyday things, and she was always told to do things online.

In the end the bank rep was kind enough to give her an old smartphone. But, for her, it sucked because it was much more complicated, had to be charged constantly and so on...

As a technologist, it is eye opening to do the tech support of loved ones...

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

#97
post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> At some point, you have to cut off previous technologies because virtually everyone's moved to something better. Perhaps. But in this case, they've moved to something worse. Digital tickets have their benefits, but paper tickets are still superior because they don't tie you into big tech relationships and don't require supporting infrastructure to work.

Paper also does not run out of battery or smash if you drop it.

It does, however, easily get lost or left behind.

Phones, on the other hand, can be charged. And if they're smashed, you can just log into your account on a friend's phone if you haven't replaced yours yet. If you can't even do that, you can go to the ticket window and they can look up your account information and verify your ticket.

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

#98

From my quick research online, it seems they've gone digital-only for season tickets because they don't want people just reselling them to turn a profit. They want actual season-long fans, so now if you transfer too many games they can track it and ban you. This is essentially anti-scalping. There's a legit justification. You can still buy paper tickets at the stadium for a single game. But not for season passes anym…

> If this guy has the money for a season pass (!) he has the money for a smartphone.

Right, but he is wanting to choose the season pass over the smartphone. If he buys a smartphone then he won't have the money for a season pass anymore. It turns out you only get to spend x units of currency once.

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

#99
post #82

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I agree with your assertion, but it made me think of a question. Are Amish and Mennonites religiously protected luddites?

Most Amish under 30 have secret cell phones. It would only be the oldest generations without them. There are even lots of wink & nod arrangements where they may even have electricity in some outbuilding but they unplug it when elder comes to visit. It also depends on the Order as some are more strict than others. They generally aren't allowed to have electricity in "the house" but batteries and other workarounds exis…

Really interesting!

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

#100
post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem with this argument is that forcing people to use technology, without proper training and against their will, introduces them to risks as well. Anyone with older parents/family can tell you the harms that come with phishing and other fraud scenarios that cost more than just accommodating people not using technology, both at the micro and macro level. Insulting people and bullying them into technology adopt…

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Do you know how many old people get scammed per year in the United States because they are using technology that they are trained on, but assume that they have to use the technology in order to function each year with minimal practical gain relative to the costs? Its around 12.5 billion dollars in 2024, up from 10 billion in 2023 [1]. Why is introducing someone to that risk worth it to watch a baseball game?

Asserting that individual 'get smart' doesn't actually solve for the actual harms and if it were just simple, we would not be seeing the upward trends in fraud that we are seeing within the elderly.

[1] https://www.aarp.org/money/scams-fraud/older-adults-ftc-frau...

edit: fixed the years

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