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Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by b0rtb0rt »

iJohnDoe wrote: post #17
e2le wrote: post #16

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We are 1 Year and 3 months into this current administration, 2 years and 9 months remain. Despite the short period in office, so much damage and chaos has being caused by one individual and the sycophants who surround him. It is a fact that the reputation of the USA has being damaged, perhaps not repairable for decades or more. This will have consequences. Perhaps, I hope, Americans will take action to save the democ…

Worst case there will be another Republican president from the same tribe. We could be in for the same exact chaos and damage for another four years. This could go on for a long time. Remember, Republicans get out and vote. They would rather suffer and destroy America just so the democrats don’t win.

why is it that democrats always assume they are the correct side and that everyone else agrees with them?

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by rchaud »

nozzlegear wrote: post #18
vrganj wrote: post #8

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No matter who controls the US in the future, it will never go back to the position it once had globally. It's been actively harming it's allies, threatening them with invasion and conspiring with their enemies. The rest of the world cannot afford to give the American people the benefit of the doubt. After Trump I, there was hope it was just a fluke. Trump II is much worse and cements the unreliability of the American…

Never is a long time. Look at where Germany was after both WWI and WWII, and where it is now; it's demonstrably possible to cause irreparable damage to everyone around you, and then rise back to the top (multiple times!). The only questions are timeline and scale.

Germany changed its constitution, banned its former ruling party, and actively explores and teaches their school kids about their crimes. The US on the other hand has a chunk of its electorate flying Confederate flags and voting for politicians who think US history textbooks should be more "pro-American".

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by anjel »

LeFantome wrote: post #65
temp8830 wrote: post #21

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Approximately the same things were said about Dubya Jr's war with invisible WMDs. If you've forgotten - listen to some songs that came out at the time. It's not about a particular president, it's that the US seems to have a systemic dependency on starting these wars.

Your point seems to be that the US has not changed. Regardless, the world thinks it has. The “coalition of the willing” is not behind the US this time.

And so this Easter day a new oxymoron is born: the coalition of the unwilling.

Do with that, in terms of foreign policy, what you will.

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by nozzlegear »

vntok wrote: post #52
nozzlegear wrote: post #28

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> Perhaps, I hope, Americans will take action to save the democratic norms and institutions that so many of them have claimed to cherish. Before he has dismantled and replaced too many to salvage. Or perhaps they have work tomorrow. I'm going to take action by voting in November. Or are you suggesting revolution is more prudent, that I should put my life on the line right now because the global economy is a little fu…

Interesting question. Do you believe that waiting is fine because the election will be fair in November?

Yes? I've been a poll worker for every election since 2018, I have no reason to believe they won't be this time around. Do you have reason to believe that Trump isn't just full of hot air, bluster and bullshit like usual (TACO)?

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Post by Nursie »

qwerpy wrote: post #76
watwut wrote: post #47

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Everything republican party do and everything republicans vote for ... are fault of the opposition. Always. Republicans are little helpless souls having no choice but cause maxinum harm as long as opposition in any for exists. Look at what that party collectively stands for now, who they kick out and who they keep. They all stand behind trump.

Unironically yes. I lived in the Seattle area and witnessed firsthand the effects of state/county/city Democrat rule. Gifted programs cancelled, streets full of homeless and drug addicts. Hateful people yelling at and flipping me off as I take my kids to daycare for the heinous crime of driving a Tesla. I’m a well educated highly paid minority, the kind of voter that Democrats take for granted. I voted Republican dow…

Well let me be the first to thank you for the extra dollar a litre on my fuel, the extra hundred or so dollars a month on my mortgage and the impending recession that your choice has imposed upon me here in Australia.

Thanks so much for voting in Trump and his enablers.

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by dyauspitr »

Jensson wrote: post #23
zzzeek wrote: post #3

The US , when finally back in control by reasonable adults, will need to offer great concessions to Iran in order to extricate from the effects of a disastrous, illegal (both from a US as well as an intentional standpoint) and of course, completely, utterly failed war. And it might be just that Iran gets to be a permanent toll collector for the global economy.

> The US , when finally back in control by reasonable adults Betting says next president will be Gavin Newsom or JD Vance or Marco Rubio, so I wouldn't bet on that happening anytime soon. It is weird how so bad people bubble up in american politics.

I wish with all my heart it’s going to be Newsom. Perfectly center left just like I like it.

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by rockemsockem »

morkalork wrote: post #73
ndiddy wrote: post #30

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> And yet the US is now back to threatening Iran if they don't open up the oil. Trump's most recent statement ( https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/1163519987825... ): "Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day, all wrapped up in one, in Iran. There will be nothing like it!!! Open the Fuckin’ Strait, you crazy bastards, or you’ll be living in Hell - JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah. President DONALD J.…

He's thiiiiiisss >< close to threatening to drop a nuke on Tehran isn't he

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Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by Jensson »

kdheiwns wrote: post #86
ronnier wrote: post #29

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I think a large part of why they do this and vote the way they do is because of comments like yours. Hacker news, Reddit, award shows, movies, universities, etc all have a constant drum beat of disdain and hate towards them. I think this motivates them into voting even if the vote is against their own interest.

I think we're beyond the point of "you can't criticize them. That's mean and motivates them." At what point is the line drawn? Should it be in bad taste to criticize Orban supporters because it makes them support him more? What about Erdogan? Putin? Kim Jong Un? And why is it one sided that they can't be criticized, but it's all fair and good for their own leaders to demonize everyone? It's a silly double standard an…

If you want to win elections, yes. You never convince voters by telling them that they are evil people. Its fine to say Trump is evil, its not fine to say Trump voters are evil because those voters will now be much less likely to vote for you. They can't take back their votes, they already voted for Trump before, so they will just not vote for you when you attack them like that.

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by b0rtb0rt »

Shank wrote: post #42
Jensson wrote: post #15

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> The current Japanese leader is also a war mongerer, so I'd bet they also threatened to enter the war on USA's side if their ships weren't allowed to pass. The amount of misinformation foreign people have about Takaichi-san is staggering. She is by no means a "war mongerer" and the Japanese constitution has clear limits that prevent Japan from doing virtually anything. The reason why Japan can get a pass is because…

why are you adding japanese honorifics when the rest of your post is in english?
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