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How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Ignoring the disaster that is their branding/naming. Copilot is _amazing_. Everyone is hyping about Claude, but I'm way more productive with the copilot cli. The copilot cloud agent is great, and copilot code review is great (we also tried the new very expensive claude code review - it was slow and expensive). Forget that it's Microsoft, forget that everything is Copilot and go and give it a shot.

Nice try, Nadella!

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Ignoring the disaster that is their branding/naming. Copilot is _amazing_. Everyone is hyping about Claude, but I'm way more productive with the copilot cli. The copilot cloud agent is great, and copilot code review is great (we also tried the new very expensive claude code review - it was slow and expensive). Forget that it's Microsoft, forget that everything is Copilot and go and give it a shot.

How much is it?

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It makes sense. And Google is its own way to name all AI products “Gemini”.

Which is unusually simple. I would expect Google to use 10 more marketing names simultaneously without any logic to the product lines.

They’ve improved it since the initial launch when the service, model names and plan names all sounded similar and contradictory.

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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It reminds me of around 2002 when Microsoft named everything ".net".

Yep, I remember downloading a beta version of what would be eventually released as Windows Server 2003. The beta version was called Windows .Net Server 2003.

I had some books that referred to it as .NET Server printed before the name change. In the long history of terrible Microsoft names, this was a rare case where they were able to right the ship.

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Copilot is just Microsoft's term for AI. How many products have Copilot? Just about all of them.

Yeah imagine if they had unique product names for "AI in OneDrive", "AI in SharePoint", "AI in Outlook"... That would be even more ridiculous.

Not if AI is ultimately a commodity, which it likely is. We don't want or need branded terms for other common features, like networking or files. In the early days of networking, before it was standard, there were attempts to brand things like NetBIOS with IPX and such. I don't want to repeat all of that every time some company wants to establish vendor lockin or branding.

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Crazy how copilot was a great brand, and might even have been the first mass market LLM product (2022-2023 code autocomplete) but they completely ensloppified it

I think it's fine. GitHub Copilot is popular as ever, especially in companies that have enterprise tier subscriptions. Plans for personal use pretty good too, pricing is competitive. The VS Code integration and agentic features aren't bad either.

Developer tools live in their own space. And I assume most devs don't really care that "Copilot" started to show up everywhere, especially in MS365 products. At least I don't. Conversely, do non-technical people care where the term comes from, and now means "LLM integration" in a bunch of MS products?

I think it's better that Google going through Bard, Gemini, IDX, Firebase Studio, Antigravity, ...

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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The only Microsoft products I’ve actively heard people desire within the last 5 years are VSCode and Excel. Microsoft have so severely damaged their brand that they’ve finally shed the image of oddly gray Dell midtowers running XP on Pentium 4.

I work in big financials. Everything used to be built on Excel. A lot still is but Python/Jupyterhub or custom applications has taken over a lot of the complex stuff. Excel isn't really essential any more.

While less necessary with AI, Excel is still the king of data entry and basic data manipulation (sorting, filtering, updating, etc.). I’d say that SQLite with a GUI for visualization is a far stronger competitor than Jupyter at those sorts of things. You can do that stuff in Jupyter, but it’s easier in Excel.

Jupyter also has a janky execution model. It doesn’t track dependencies so you have to be very careful in how you separate cells from one another and just running the whole notebook every time seems kind of pointless vs just writing a pure Python script.

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Copilot is just Microsoft's term for AI. How many products have Copilot? Just about all of them.

It makes sense. And Google is its own way to name all AI products “Gemini”.

But they put Gemini in google docs, they didn’t rename Docs to Gemini like Microsoft did.
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