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Artemis II will use laser beams to live-stream 4K moon footage at 260 Mbps

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Re: Artemis II will use laser beams to live-stream 4K moon footage at 260 Mbps

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How does laser communication work with a moving object with 9DoF?!

I was wondering about this too! I did not know how they can aim a laser from so far at a moving spaceship.

I generated this visual map about to help me understand it - https://vectree.io/c/aiming-space-lasers-gimbals-and-beam-di...

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> never-before-seen views of “the far side of the Moon“ I guess not counting all the prior "views" that have been recorded since the Apollo missions, including Chinese orbiters which (according to Wikipedia) "scanned the entire Moon in unprecedented detail, generating a high definition 3D map that would provide a reference for future soft landings"

This article is plagued by several almost-truths, and gets a lot mixed up.

The thing that is happening for the first time on this mission is humans personally observing much of the far side in daylight. For the Apollo missions the far side was mostly dark because they wanted a high sun angle at the landing site on the near side. Many uncrewed orbiting cameras and even a recent Chinese lander & rover have taken photos of the far side.

It also states that these will be images "from the surface" of the Moon which is wildly off base. Artemis II is not landing... Of course it's true that this O2O technology could be used for high bandwidth livestreams from the surface on future missions, if this test works well.

I don't even think this O2O system will be used for live video during Artemis II. This and several other similar articles all appear to reference a NASA press release that is about the technology in general. The mission-specific NASA reference I found[1] says they will transmit a pre-recorded video "in the lunar vicinity" at 4k using the O2O system, so I would guess this claim of a "livestream" is just misstated.

[1]: https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/a2-reference...

Re: Artemis II will use laser beams to live-stream 4K moon footage at 260 Mbps

#93

> never-before-seen views of “the far side of the Moon“ I guess not counting all the prior "views" that have been recorded since the Apollo missions, including Chinese orbiters which (according to Wikipedia) "scanned the entire Moon in unprecedented detail, generating a high definition 3D map that would provide a reference for future soft landings"

A more accurate claim would be: never-before-seen in real-time at that fidelity from lunar distance.

The article talks about the normal blackout window of 40 minutes on the far side. I'm confused about how they will get real time footage from that side. Is there a lunar relay satellite that wasn't mentioned?

Re: Artemis II will use laser beams to live-stream 4K moon footage at 260 Mbps

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They did that with the Apollo 17 LEM lift-off https://www.redsharknews.com/technology-computing/item/2742-...

If I saw that in any other context I would have assumed it was a low budget special effect--mostly due the spray of rainbow sparkles when the module separates from the base.

It's a sequential colour camera, each field is red, green or blue filtered (using a spinning colour wheel), and they're processed back on earth to recombine them into a colour TV picture. Doesn't work that well with fast motion, as there's too much movement between the red, green, and blue images, hence the rainbowing. They were of course bandwidth limited so conventional NTSC might be an issue. Also a normal colour TV camera at the time used three (or four) image tubes, rather than the one in the Apollo cameras, which would have added size and weight (this is before things like CCDs were practical).

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Hopefully, the footage is better than the missed pan up at lift-off, and showing spectators at the time of booster separation. I understand funding cuts and all, but this is a once-in-a-generation moment and it’s filmed with no apparent effort whatsoever.

if you haven't seen the footage from someone in a passenger jet nearby, it rocks https://old.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1sagcc1 https://v.redd.it/l11tehzzvrsg1/CMAF_720.mp4 Think about how much technology evolved to create that scene, to fly nearby and being used to take that video, wow

You can't really see anything in that video. The craft is very small on screen.

Re: Artemis II will use laser beams to live-stream 4K moon footage at 260 Mbps

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Hopefully, the footage is better than the missed pan up at lift-off, and showing spectators at the time of booster separation. I understand funding cuts and all, but this is a once-in-a-generation moment and it’s filmed with no apparent effort whatsoever.

They had 4000 people cut in 2025 and big budget cut in 2026. Maybe that included the camera crews and equipment.

Why isn't NASA hiring a normal production company?

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#97
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This in particular warmed my grumpy heart after the best footage of the launch came from a commercial airliners windows. I had assumed they would've had a better plan to film the entire departure from orbit yesterday. I'm at least happy they have one for the loop around the moon.

I think the actual best footage of the launch was from Everyday Astronaut on youtube, including a great shot of the booster separation https://www.youtube.com/live/QOsSRRBMNoc?t=6h49m36s

Here's another launch video uncut: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DWm1pXNAOh6/

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect this is a frequency thing. Early SpaceX broadcasts were pretty rough. NASA just doesn't do launch coverage with the same sort of cadence. Honestly, they should consider outsourcing that bit.

Was going to say, I think everyone forgot about early SpaceX product quality. And NASA probably does have great video of it available, it’s just the live broadcast that missed it.

> I think everyone forgot about early SpaceX product quality.

This was 8 years ago and is one of the greatest stuff I've seen in space launches. The footage is so epic that it even got replicated in SciFi series! ... https://youtu.be/wbSwFU6tY1c?t=1313

This was 9 years ago, first droneship landing - https://youtu.be/7pUAydjne5M?t=1642

And this is 18 years ago, their first Falcon1 launch - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bET0mRnqxQM

More live video from the ascent than we got on Artemis2 for sure...

Re: Artemis II will use laser beams to live-stream 4K moon footage at 260 Mbps

#99
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The entire prelaunch is scripted. Safety is the point of prelaunch checklists and polls. Why would you get bent out of shape over each of them being able to give their own response to the final call before launch?

I didn’t realize an eye roll and considering that they’re LARPing themselves for theatrical effect… was “getting bent out of shape”. Perhaps I enjoy competence over narrative nonsense? Maybe pessimism has been highly undersold this generation and too many people are willing to buy into any basic narrative of emotion nudging they’re shown?

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Re: Artemis II will use laser beams to live-stream 4K moon footage at 260 Mbps

#100
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect this is a frequency thing. Early SpaceX broadcasts were pretty rough. NASA just doesn't do launch coverage with the same sort of cadence. Honestly, they should consider outsourcing that bit.

I think this is a “you have one job” kind of thing for shooting liftoff (no matter what quality of equipment is on hand): rocket goes up, tilt camera up. Bonus: Try to match the speed of the tilt with the speed of the rocket in the frame.

SpaceX had a lot of rough footage before they figured it out and they have many more tries to correct it
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