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IPv6 address, as a sentence you can remember

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Re: IPv6 address, as a sentence you can remember

#91

Something that I think was probably once obvious to me but I rediscovered recently is just how intensely wired for song the brain is. If you want to memorize anything, doing it as a song makes it far easier. I’d really love to see things like this generate little jingles along with the sentence. :)

As anecdotal evidence, I could never remember all the names of the london tube stations as prose, but after listening to Jay Foreman's Every Tube Station song a few times, I cant help but sing it every time I hear a tube station name, and can almost flawlessly list them all off

https://youtu.be/8jPyg2pK11M

Re: IPv6 address, as a sentence you can remember

#92

ipv6 is for faceless hordes of cellphones, which could just as easily be NAT despite being an ipv6 skeptic, i’ve been thinking to try using ipv6 for our new company network, but make the addresses purely readable

> is for faceless hordes of cellphones

How could we determine which device on mobile network is a faceless cellphone and which is a proper device needing real sweet Internet connection? And won't that make things more complicated than just v6 deployment?

Can argue that NAT, which interrupt layers ment for end device do basically the same as popular user hostinle unchangable mobile OSes, but I don't think latter is good either.

Re: IPv6 address, as a sentence you can remember

#93

They should charge a small annual fee and let people reserve a custom word for a given IP. You could even have a small utility on your computer that automatically queries given names to "resolve" to IPs.

As long as there is a way to inappropriately link the security of my entire enterprise into it!

Re: IPv6 address, as a sentence you can remember

#94

If you're remembering your IPv6 address you're doing IPv6 wrong. In fact, it's good practice to always use a temporary IPv6 address. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8981#name-problem-s...

It's fdac::1. If you're using random 48 bit or 64 bit numbers in your IP address you're doing it wrong.

I have zero concerns that the IPv6 namespace for my home network will conflict with another administrative site during a merger. So.. it works great. Also super handy when the DNS resolver for my local network is down because of power outages or other unrelated failures.

Re: IPv6 address, as a sentence you can remember

#95

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I think the Matter standard is going to cause IPv6 adoption to increase significantly in the coming years. People will demand it, without even knowing what Matter or IPv6 are. They just want to be able to turn their lights off from their phone without any extra hardware or software.

Matter is only local networking. Essentially everyone has IPv6 on their local network. That said, I disagree with the parent statement that v6 isn't going to happen. It's already happening at a steady rate. From the Google stats it's steadily rolling out. Some countries are reaching 100% v6 deployment. I wouldn't be surprised if we eventually see some countries with high v6 deployments see services which are v6 only.

> Some countries are reaching 100% v6 deployment

World map:

https://www.arcep.fr/cartes-et-donnees/nos-cartes/ipv6/carte...

France is extremely close to 100%:

https://www.arcep.fr/fileadmin/reprise/observatoire/ipv6/Arc...

> some countries with high v6 deployments see services which are v6 only.

IIRC this has already long happened in some countries with smaller IPv4 pools, can't recall where.

Re: IPv6 address, as a sentence you can remember

#96

They should charge a small annual fee and let people reserve a custom word for a given IP. You could even have a small utility on your computer that automatically queries given names to "resolve" to IPs.

To facilitate client to client communications, they should add a who-does-it-serve (short WHO DIS) system to get contact information of already reserved names.

Re: IPv6 address, as a sentence you can remember

#97

They should charge a small annual fee and let people reserve a custom word for a given IP. You could even have a small utility on your computer that automatically queries given names to "resolve" to IPs.

And then if they don't like someone they should revoke their word. And they should make it so words with certain endings are delegated to other countries who can also revoke your word if they don't like you.

Re: IPv6 address, as a sentence you can remember

#98
post #87

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Good luck when you're trying to troubleshoot and DNS not working is one of the symptoms. 8.8.8.8 and 4.2.2.x are easy to remember.

DNS should be auto configured and work with multiple redundancy these days. If it breaks, so much that you cannot do a dig, you need to re think your network.

Oh yes, that's really convenient for home users. "Install this thing on several computers and keep it in sync or you're not qualified to have a network"

Re: IPv6 address, as a sentence you can remember

#99
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How does that work? I initially assumed you meant you just statically assigned machines to addresses, which I think would work courtesy of collision avoidance (and the massive address space), but I can't see how that would work for VMs. Are you just letting VMs pick an IP at random and then having them never change it, at which point you manually add them to DNS?

Pretty much. A given mac address assigned in the vm config maps directly to a static slaac address(the ones they recommend you not use) and those preknown slaac address are in dns, Like I said, I should probably use dhcp6 but it was a personal experiment in cloning a vm for a sandbox execution environment. and those slacc address were stable enough for that. every time it gets cloned to the same mac address it ended…

Clarification for others: with privacy extensions disabled, SLAAC'd IPv6 addresses are deterministically generated based on MAC addresses. There's also an inbetween (IPv6 are stable per network by hashing).

Re: IPv6 address, as a sentence you can remember

#100
post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good luck when you're trying to troubleshoot and DNS not working is one of the symptoms. 8.8.8.8 and 4.2.2.x are easy to remember.

DNS should be auto configured and work with multiple redundancy these days. If it breaks, so much that you cannot do a dig, you need to re think your network.

My DNS "server" is a router which can "add" static entries. Easy with static addresses, won't work with dynamic addresses.

What redundancy, multiple servers? Do you think everybody runs dedicated homelabs to access a raspberry pi.

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