Poor kid. The irony of scarring this kid for life over completely normal behavior, in order to "protect him from abuse", is hopefully not lost on all of you.
My son pleasured himself on Gemini Live. Entire family's Google accounts banned
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Re: My son pleasured himself on Gemini Live. Entire family's Google accounts banned
#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is realistically no way to evade the account correlation systems that Google (likely) has.
It's not that hard actually, but separation has a maintenance/convenience cost and requires you to think before doing anything.
We're speculating here but between time correlation, browser fingerprinting and telemetry, the average user attempting to pull off a clean compartmentalisation of two accounts has no chance, even when they think they do.
Re: My son pleasured himself on Gemini Live. Entire family's Google accounts banned
#93God, this is a real nightmare. I'm pretty reticent to rush to regulation, but I really don't know what other solution is even possible here. The average person cannot realistically exist in a digital vacuum, self-hosting their entire online world. Google should not be able to do this to them. No one should have to rely on trying to whip up public mobs on Reddit or HN to get Google to give them access to their own fre…
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Re: My son pleasured himself on Gemini Live. Entire family's Google accounts banned
#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you not aware of a million of dedicated competitive services for each of this to jump to "self-hosting" as the only alternative? > All my emails, all my documents saved in Google Drive.
How many of those competitive services would also lock the account if something like this happened?
None: your me@NonSelf-HostedMail.com simply wouldn't know about your account at AI.com, so you'd only have your AI account banned
Re: My son pleasured himself on Gemini Live. Entire family's Google accounts banned
#95Could you imagine if Microsoft decided to remotely revoke IBM's access to Outlook/all of their mail on their mail server without completely migrating to a new service? Oh, and there's no point of contact.
The ensuing legal battle would be legendary. The only reason this is happening is because Google isn't beholden to the common people, despite running a utility.
Re: My son pleasured himself on Gemini Live. Entire family's Google accounts banned
#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not that hard actually, but separation has a maintenance/convenience cost and requires you to think before doing anything.
We're speculating here but between time correlation, browser fingerprinting and telemetry, the average user attempting to pull off a clean compartmentalisation of two accounts has no chance, even when they think they do.
I'm not speculating, but yes, ordinary users won't be able do that, that's what my warning is about.
Re: My son pleasured himself on Gemini Live. Entire family's Google accounts banned
#97God, this is a real nightmare. I'm pretty reticent to rush to regulation, but I really don't know what other solution is even possible here. The average person cannot realistically exist in a digital vacuum, self-hosting their entire online world. Google should not be able to do this to them. No one should have to rely on trying to whip up public mobs on Reddit or HN to get Google to give them access to their own fre…
> I'm pretty reticent to rush to regulation, but I really don't know what other solution is even possible here. Before rushing to assume regulation is necessary, we should question if this story is real at all. It has a lot of signs of being a creative writing exercise like the conflicting details about all of their accounts being banned, including recovery emails, but then later they received an email explaining the…
> but then later they received an email explaining the reason for the ban
Presumably this was in response to an appeal, which would have required an email, which would obviously have been a non-Google email given the wider context? I'm not seeing the inconsistency.
Re: My son pleasured himself on Gemini Live. Entire family's Google accounts banned
#98Reminder that Reddit is a hotbed for creative writing stories posted as pleas for advice. It’s a trend across all of the advice subreddits. They usually have rules that you’re not allowed to question the posts, only provide advice, so it’s a safe output for LARPing for attention, weirdly enough. This story is triggering a lot of my skepticism senses because it fits the mold of a typical creative writing Reddit post:…
yeah this story smells funny. Also, given the popularity of the post, wouldn't their son immediately know it's them? If I truly wanted advice, I would hide the sordid details. I think it's a fantastic piece of creative writing.
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#99Reminder that Reddit is a hotbed for creative writing stories posted as pleas for advice. It’s a trend across all of the advice subreddits. They usually have rules that you’re not allowed to question the posts, only provide advice, so it’s a safe output for LARPing for attention, weirdly enough. This story is triggering a lot of my skepticism senses because it fits the mold of a typical creative writing Reddit post:…
You forgot ‘a human at google actually responding to anything’ which is the most unbelievable of all
Re: My son pleasured himself on Gemini Live. Entire family's Google accounts banned
#100Why does reddit end up deleting so many of the threads that end up receiving any attention? It's so hard to follow anything now when you go to the site and all there is is [removed]
Because it was obviously a creative writing exercise. I left another comment showing the contradictions in the post. The facts provided were self-contradicting and the story was full of the usual tells for creative writing posts. It was also oddly focused on email access instead of the obvious legal problems that would come from having your account flagged for CSAM. It’s like what someone would write if they were try…
You identify two inconsistencies, neither of which appear to actually be inconsistent. (One is just the observation that multiple accounts were banned, which is not actually an inconsistency? Just something you don't find likely?)
It's possible that this is real, it's possible it's made up, but I'm not seeing much more evidence in your armchair scepticism than in the asserted facts. Last week everyone on HN was telling me that social media must immediately be regulated because it's 'directionally correct' to assert that teenagers are suffering, but this week we are to disbelieve that Google would ever arbitrarily close accounts, something it firmly asserts it has every right to do?