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Re: Tell HN: Chrome says "suspicious download" when trying to download yt-dlp

#91

This entire thread it almost entirely proof that HN is now reddit. No facts, no consideration, just accusation and crowd think > Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. none of that here > Don't be curmudgeonly. Thoughtful criticism is fine, but please don't be rigidly or generically negative. not followed here > Please respond to the strongest plausible interpret…

"Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community."

Re: Tell HN: Chrome says "suspicious download" when trying to download yt-dlp

#92

Reminds me of how Bing search for Google takes people to a page meant to resemble Google.com. Can't trust huge companies. But as others have pointed out, it's probably a coincidence in this case. But who knows.

Google did flag the Ad Nauseam Chrome extension as malware, so that was a definite abuse of power. This one is unclear.

Re: Tell HN: Chrome says "suspicious download" when trying to download yt-dlp

#94
post #2

So, Google's browser says downloading a tool to download files from Google's servers is "Suspicious"? Not surprising.

By the same standard, Chrome itself is "a tool to download files from Google's servers." Chrome doesn't only download from Google's servers, but the same thing applies to yt-dlp. I'm equally not "surprised" by their bad behavior, but that shouldn't stop us from condemning Google for unethically misleading people and engaging in browser monopoly abuse. --- EDIT: holding up (hilariously) RIAA lawyers as ethical role mo…

Chrome should be flagged as suspicious

Re: Tell HN: Chrome says "suspicious download" when trying to download yt-dlp

#95

The heuristics powering this, as well as the Windows Defender whitelisting, are terrible. My understanding is that a specific binary needs to become popular for it to stop being flagged. This creates a chicken and egg problem. Users are not incentivized to use the program with the warning. But removing the warning requires many people to ignore the warning. This is a big problem for anyone writing Windows software. A…

This is also what I call bullshit security. These mechanisms are designed to chain developers to infrastructure of the OS provider. Apple does the same shit for that matter.

Re: Tell HN: Chrome says "suspicious download" when trying to download yt-dlp

#96
post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it uses Google's shitlist

And only exists because of Google.

Are you sure? If chrome didn't have a choke hold on the web, I have a feeling firefox would have been fine.

Re: Tell HN: Chrome says "suspicious download" when trying to download yt-dlp

#97

The heuristics powering this, as well as the Windows Defender whitelisting, are terrible. My understanding is that a specific binary needs to become popular for it to stop being flagged. This creates a chicken and egg problem. Users are not incentivized to use the program with the warning. But removing the warning requires many people to ignore the warning. This is a big problem for anyone writing Windows software. A…

This is also what I call bullshit security. These mechanisms are designed to chain developers to infrastructure of the OS provider. Apple does the same shit for that matter.

Does Microsoft get kickbacks from code signing certificate vendors?

Because AFAIK SmartScreen only applies to software downloaded outside the Microsoft Store.

Come to think of it, I suppose it does incentivize distribution through the Store, so you make a good point.

Re: Tell HN: Chrome says "suspicious download" when trying to download yt-dlp

#98
post #61

I can reproduce when downloading https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/releases/download/2026.03.1... . But it did provide a line of explanation: Dangerous download blocked yt-dlp_win_x86.zip is not commonly downloaded and may be dangerous. [Discard] [Keep]

How useful is that explanation, though? All new software releases (even Chrome itself) are not commonly downloaded, until they are.
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