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U.S. stocks are set to deliver their worst quarter in nearly four years

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Re: U.S. stocks are set to deliver their worst quarter in nearly four years

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Post by roysting »

gadflyinyoureye wrote: post #51
bix6 wrote: post #45

So what does this mean for technology? Well there are 3 huge IPOs supposed to go out this year. This hurts liquidity and clogs the pipes. And then for early stage venture, where I work, it will be harder to raise funds and move new ventures forward. Especially given the extreme shifting of public assets to loyalists. Overall it’s a bleak time for American exceptionalism. The only companies that are in vogue are AI an…

Not even defenses. How is RTX down?

I suspect it’s the unwinding of the Yen carry trade and/or indirectly connected to running for shelter for several reasons including the massive bomb in private lending and subsequently private equity that is ticking down and doing so even faster now that Trump cut the wrong wire to distract from the Epstein files and him being a child rapist.

This all seems structural, as indicates that in the middle of a war even military stocks are down, which indicates deep rot or deep lack of confidence in at least the stock market.

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Post by everdrive »

grafmax wrote: post #58
blitzar wrote: post #8

I don't know why you are asking about pedophiles and sex trafficing - The Dow is over 50,000 right now, the S&P is at almost 7,000, and the Nasdaq is smashing records. Americans' 401(k) savings are booming, thats what we should be talking about.

Funny how 401ks can make members of the American public think the stock market is really about them. In capitalism, assets follow a Pareto distribution. A small minority hold the majority of assets.

Even if someone is much richer, 401k owners are still operating out of self-interest. There is still a valid point about income inequality, however I'm not sure that renders 401k into some sort of evil diversion.

Re: U.S. stocks are set to deliver their worst quarter in nearly four years

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Post by marcyb5st »

kingstoned wrote: post #35
mikewarot wrote: post #13

In less than a decade, the Dow will likely go over 1,000,000. (Because the Dollar is about to tank) I used to believe the unwinding of the Petrodollar would take a generation, it's now likely to happen this year . Trump's wild late night rants threatening civilian infrastructure gave all the cover Iran needed to take out the infrastructure of any of our allies that have US connections or bases. The effects of those a…

USD is actually stronger these days... I know since I receive USD as payment and convert them to EUR

This is likely due to the fact that oil is up. These things are a bit sticky and transfer a bit of momentum to each other.

If Oil goes the USD follow suits thanks to Petrodollar. This will happen until it's still easier to trade oil in dollars.

Re: U.S. stocks are set to deliver their worst quarter in nearly four years

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Post by [deleted] »

spicyusername wrote: post #62
wat10000 wrote: post #29

It certainly is interesting living in a declining empire.

This is a common refrain you hear a lot. I get why people say it, because it feels good to say when you feel bad. But the decline of the Roman empire took nearly 500 years. Even the bronze age collapse, which you might say happened fast, took more than 100. A thought I have every time someone parrots this is, "what is reasonable to expect?". Would you have heard people saying the same thing during the civil war? Duri…

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Re: U.S. stocks are set to deliver their worst quarter in nearly four years

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Post by buellerbueller »

worldsayshi wrote: post #65
citrin_ru wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trump net worth is $3 billion more than it was before he become a president. Likely more money was made via insider trading by his friends and family. So it's not like no one did benefit. Net loss for the country and the world is orders of magnitude higher though.

The more I see the stock market dropping due to idiotic mistakes that should've been very preventable, the more I think how beneficial it must be to be one of the insiders that accidentally let those idiotic things slip through. Are we as small savers just idiots feeding this idiot machine?

>Are we as small savers just idiots feeding this idiot machine?

Yes. 401k should never have been the main retirement plan.

Re: U.S. stocks are set to deliver their worst quarter in nearly four years

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Post by [deleted] »

RealityVoid wrote: post #34
seydor wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can read his book, it's full of things he would do (even if he didn't write it). Typical sales tactics and nothing more sales than tactics even after the snake oil has been exposed.

Oh, yes, I agree. But I now know that they were written by a ghost writer so I'm not sure it it's completely accurate to credit him with all in the books. The ghost writer deff gives it its own flair. But, yes, when Trump was first elected, I've have friends tell me I don't get it, I am hating him because I was told to, I'm not looking past the noise, and I had to clarify to them that no, I have despised him since I…

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Re: U.S. stocks are set to deliver their worst quarter in nearly four years

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Post by GJim »

CoastalCoder wrote: post #42
maplethorpe wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm still holding out for this being some 4d chess move that's way over my head. If he really is this foolish, then why did we all vote for him?

I'm guessing that one reason we got Trump is that the Democrats presented two poor alternatives in a row. It was clear that Biden was mentally slipping. Even if you were a fan of his general politics, 4 additional years of mental decline while in office was a scary prospect. And then Kamala Harris was given very little time to sell herself to the voters. I'm wondering if Trump would have won had the Democrats present…

> I'm guessing that one reason we got Trump is that the Democrats presented two poor alternatives in a row.

Oh please.

Are you seriously comparing the disaster that is Mango Mussolini to the likes of (practically any) alternative candidate?

The sad reality is that the American people wanted Trump and _voted_ for him. TWICE! The rest of the world has come to terms with this and knows there is no going back to the old hegemony (put simply, the American people may vote for another Trump; we now know the USA can no longer be trusted as a good faith partner). The world has changed, and many in the USA who didn't vote for Trump have yet to realise this and still think they can go back.

Besides, if all candidates are crap, you vote for the one that will do least harm. And then look at reforming a political system which leaves voters with such a poor choice.

Re: U.S. stocks are set to deliver their worst quarter in nearly four years

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Post by buellerbueller »

maplethorpe wrote: post #21
joe_mamba wrote: post #6

Crazy how for a guy so obsessed with self image and legacy, Trump is leaving behind a world where he'll be known for making everything shit that it was before him. Amazing. How does this happen?

I'm still holding out for this being some 4d chess move that's way over my head. If he really is this foolish, then why did we all vote for him?

It's not 4d chess.

"We" did not vote for him. Some of y'all did.

Re: U.S. stocks are set to deliver their worst quarter in nearly four years

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Post by iso1631 »

kingstoned wrote: post #35
mikewarot wrote: post #13

In less than a decade, the Dow will likely go over 1,000,000. (Because the Dollar is about to tank) I used to believe the unwinding of the Petrodollar would take a generation, it's now likely to happen this year . Trump's wild late night rants threatening civilian infrastructure gave all the cover Iran needed to take out the infrastructure of any of our allies that have US connections or bases. The effects of those a…

USD is actually stronger these days... I know since I receive USD as payment and convert them to EUR

$100 will buy €87. On January 1st 2025 it bought €96

Had you bought $1000 of S&P on Jan 1st 2025 you'd have $1070

Had you bought $1000 of EUR on the same day and put it under the bed, you'd have $1100

$1000 in DAX in Euros would be $1250 today

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