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Re: GitHub backs down, kills Copilot pull-request ads after backlash

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Yet Sourceforge has been putting ads on open source projects for decades.

Ironically, that's what probably killed Sourceforge and helped GitHub take off. It remains to be seen whether Codeberg will now repeat the process.

Re: GitHub backs down, kills Copilot pull-request ads after backlash

#92

Microsoft is seriously the worst offender in shoving AI down everyone's throats. I'm pro-AI adoption but the way Microsoft distastefully forces Copilot into everything is how you get people to hate AI. I’m guessing product teams are told by upper management to AI-fy every product they own. Teams are then rushed to just get something out there whether they make sense or not.

There was a great quote in an article I read from here recently along the lines of: Microsoft have invested enough in OpenAI that it's not their problem -- not Sam Altman's -- if it doesn't work out.

Re: GitHub backs down, kills Copilot pull-request ads after backlash

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post #45

Microsoft is seriously the worst offender in shoving AI down everyone's throats. I'm pro-AI adoption but the way Microsoft distastefully forces Copilot into everything is how you get people to hate AI. I’m guessing product teams are told by upper management to AI-fy every product they own. Teams are then rushed to just get something out there whether they make sense or not.

Microsoft doesn't believe in consent, it believes in yes or every 3 days.

I am reminded of Steve Jobs's video where he says Microsoft has no taste everytime MS pushes this stuff on it's users. True in 90s, true now

Video https://youtu.be/lahX_ARGTqA?si=AnULWzRbl7cc3UWu

Re: GitHub backs down, kills Copilot pull-request ads after backlash

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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thinking of megacorps as anything other than slimy, amoral, scum honestly requires superhuman levels of mental gymnastics.

And thinking that megacorps are in any meaningful way different than your last underdog startup darling is another level of copium.

Sure. But a startup could, in theory end up profitable and self-sufficient without a public offering. It's not impossible.

Re: GitHub backs down, kills Copilot pull-request ads after backlash

#95

Microsoft is seriously the worst offender in shoving AI down everyone's throats. I'm pro-AI adoption but the way Microsoft distastefully forces Copilot into everything is how you get people to hate AI. I’m guessing product teams are told by upper management to AI-fy every product they own. Teams are then rushed to just get something out there whether they make sense or not.

There was a great quote in an article I read from here recently along the lines of: Microsoft have invested enough in OpenAI that it's not their problem -- not Sam Altman's -- if it doesn't work out.

They've only invested $13b in OpenAI. They spent $68b on Activision Blizzard.

I don't buy that quote. I think Microsoft is actually under huge threat from AI companies replacing their revenue stream.

Re: GitHub backs down, kills Copilot pull-request ads after backlash

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> We identified a programming logic issue with a GitHub Copilot coding agent tip that surfaced in the wrong context within a pull request comment. We have removed agent tips from pull request comments moving forward. Why does this read as they are saying it was a mistake ? Because it absolutely wasn't, and it will absolutely happen again, maybe just less obvious next time.

How do you know better if it was a mistake than GitHub themselves? It is possible that the tip was only supposed to show up in some other place and it accidentally started getting added somewhere it shouldn't have been.

Because it was already mentioned that it was a bad call by an internal dev.

> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47573233

> We've been including product tips in PRs created by Copilot coding agent. The goal was to help developers learn new ways to use the agent in their workflow. But hearing the feedback here, and on reflection, this was the wrong judgement call. We won't do something like this again.

Either way, even if it was a mistake, giving the ability to modify someone else's PR without prompt, in any scenario should have been tested, oh I don't know.. At least once.

Re: GitHub backs down, kills Copilot pull-request ads after backlash

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Calling advertisements "product tips" as if everybody is too stupid to understand what that means. They created an amazing technology that oftentimes is indistinguishable from magic and then use it to deliver ads and - sorry about the tangent - kill people. This really is the quote of the century: > The best minds of my generation are thinking about how to make people click ads What a waste.

And nobody has ever bought anything just because of an ad. You either already knew about shit through some other way or you were going to buy it anyway. Only people downvoting this will be the ones who perpetuate this Emperor With No Clothes racket. It's just a thin veil for surveillance.

I have definitely bought things I’ve seen in ads. And I know many people who have. There are brands that I know exist only because I’ve seen ads for them. What is an alternative to advertisements that you suggest??

Re: GitHub backs down, kills Copilot pull-request ads after backlash

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post #4

Calling advertisements "product tips" as if everybody is too stupid to understand what that means. They created an amazing technology that oftentimes is indistinguishable from magic and then use it to deliver ads and - sorry about the tangent - kill people. This really is the quote of the century: > The best minds of my generation are thinking about how to make people click ads What a waste.

if its indistinguishable from magic please do some reading or refrain from using.

You know, I'm well aware of how an LLM works (partially. mostly anyway), but if you pulled in any layperson from the street and ask them to explain how it's possible that they can speak natural language commands into their phones and get a useful response as if they were talking to a human, you'd be hard pressed to get a more precise answer than along the lines

> It's something with to do with data, and I know it's not magic, but...

Maybe you were not familiar with the quote I was alluding to:

> Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke%27s_three_laws

Re: GitHub backs down, kills Copilot pull-request ads after backlash

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post #4

Calling advertisements "product tips" as if everybody is too stupid to understand what that means. They created an amazing technology that oftentimes is indistinguishable from magic and then use it to deliver ads and - sorry about the tangent - kill people. This really is the quote of the century: > The best minds of my generation are thinking about how to make people click ads What a waste.

And nobody has ever bought anything just because of an ad. You either already knew about shit through some other way or you were going to buy it anyway. Only people downvoting this will be the ones who perpetuate this Emperor With No Clothes racket. It's just a thin veil for surveillance.

One of the most provably false statements of all time
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