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OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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Re: OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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Post by llm_nerd »

CursedSilicon wrote: post #88
llm_nerd wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Why do I have to beg and ask multiple times to get an answer they already know I'm looking for but still decide to withhold?" Performative with zero correlation with the actual topic at hand, but purposefully using ridiculously leading language to bait the gullible (which apparently includes you). It has nothing to do with a different opinion, it's someone choosing a polarised position and then just streaming nonsen…

Am I gullible or white knighting? Or do I simply disagree with you enough to comment? I guess you could go ask the slop machine and come back :)

>Am I gullible or white knighting?

Why do you think these are exclusive choices? You are gullibly white knighting for an obvious troll. Their other reply to you betrays that they're just a noisemaker, and you're dutifully carrying water for them.

Re: OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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Post by financetechbro »

chollida1 wrote: post #31
cmiles8 wrote: post #15

There’s a strong chance the IPO window has passed. I just don’t see investors willing to jump in here given all the questions about the financial viability of AI. The bulk of those investing now are broadly just pumping cash into the fire to keep their prior investments from going to zero. We have hit a mass deceleration of what the current tech can do with transformers. The tech is also on a path to hyper-commoditiz…

> There’s a strong chance the IPO window has passed Ha, i'll take the other side of that bet. I'm not sure why you think they couldn't possibly IPO and you don't really specify why in your post. Having been in the capital markets for 20 years, now is one of the better times to IPO and I'd bet that both OpenAI and Anthropic will IPO within 12 months. There are lots of games you can play like releasing a small 10% floa…

I was in the capital markets during the COVID era, focusing on transactions for tech companies. I will take the bet that if OAI tries to IPO it will be WeWork 2.0 x100. Get ready for an even more creative version of “Community adjusted EBITDA”

On the real though, I am not sure how a 20yr veteran can say this is the best time for an IPO. Not only is a 10% float still absolutely massive, but the world is extremely unstable with the war in Iran and the US is in a recession when you factor out inflated growth driven by AI. Not to mention the Yen carry trade unwinding - there is so much loaded in the economy ready to blow up… I think the facade will collapse if OAI actually goes for it.

Re: OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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Post by surgical_fire »

CursedSilicon wrote: post #84
surgical_fire wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Hey uh. Slurs aren't cool. You could've just as easily said "investors are morons" and had the same connotations without disparaging a group of people

I disagree, and I also don't care. I really despise this sort language policing, it is clear what my message was.

The only group of people I disparaged are Tesla investors, deservingly so.

Other types of mentally impaired people have my full sympathy, and that includes charity.

Re: OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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Post by CursedSilicon »

surgical_fire wrote: post #93
CursedSilicon wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey uh. Slurs aren't cool. You could've just as easily said "investors are morons" and had the same connotations without disparaging a group of people

I disagree, and I also don't care. I really despise this sort language policing, it is clear what my message was. The only group of people I disparaged are Tesla investors, deservingly so. Other types of mentally impaired people have my full sympathy, and that includes charity.

The thing about using slurs is when you respond with "but [group] deserved it!" you've implied that you're happy to use it against someone if you subjectively believe they're "deserving" and that the term should be received negatively

Re: OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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Post by CursedSilicon »

llm_nerd wrote: post #91
CursedSilicon wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Am I gullible or white knighting? Or do I simply disagree with you enough to comment? I guess you could go ask the slop machine and come back :)

>Am I gullible or white knighting? Why do you think these are exclusive choices? You are gullibly white knighting for an obvious troll. Their other reply to you betrays that they're just a noisemaker, and you're dutifully carrying water for them.

Nah. Their reply was far more nuanced than your weird gaslighting of "you don't have your own opinions! You're being trolled by the person you agree with!"

Re: OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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Post by surgical_fire »

CursedSilicon wrote: post #94
surgical_fire wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree, and I also don't care. I really despise this sort language policing, it is clear what my message was. The only group of people I disparaged are Tesla investors, deservingly so. Other types of mentally impaired people have my full sympathy, and that includes charity.

The thing about using slurs is when you respond with "but [group] deserved it!" you've implied that you're happy to use it against someone if you subjectively believe they're "deserving" and that the term should be received negatively

Incidentally, I don't refer to other types of mentally impaired people as "retard". The word has a negative connotation, similarly to "moron".

Both terms obviously should be received negatively, they are insults. That's how insults work.

I am happy to refer to more groups, not only Tesla investors, as retards too. I'll leave this as an exercise to imagination.

Re: OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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Post by CursedSilicon »

miroljub wrote: post #90
CursedSilicon wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Am I gullible or white knighting? Or do I simply disagree with you enough to comment? I guess you could go ask the slop machine and come back :)

I'm pretty sure the last two llm_nerd's comments were AI generated. What I am not sure about is if it was just laziness or a subtle prank showing how AI can be used to manipulate users to more interaction in a Facebook way.

I don't think it's (all) AI generated. But they seem to be weirdly determined to gaslight me about my own opinions on their comments

Thinking way too deeply into it. Maybe that's the troll. "Look how easily manipulated people are. I don't even need AI to do it!"

Re: OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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Post by CursedSilicon »

surgical_fire wrote: post #96
CursedSilicon wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing about using slurs is when you respond with "but [group] deserved it!" you've implied that you're happy to use it against someone if you subjectively believe they're "deserving" and that the term should be received negatively

Incidentally, I don't refer to other types of mentally impaired people as "retard". The word has a negative connotation, similarly to "moron". Both terms obviously should be received negatively, they are insults. That's how insults work. I am happy to refer to more groups, not only Tesla investors, as retards too. I'll leave this as an exercise to imagination.

I'm very sorry for the person you choose to be, then

Re: OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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Post by surgical_fire »

CursedSilicon wrote: post #98
surgical_fire wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Incidentally, I don't refer to other types of mentally impaired people as "retard". The word has a negative connotation, similarly to "moron". Both terms obviously should be received negatively, they are insults. That's how insults work. I am happy to refer to more groups, not only Tesla investors, as retards too. I'll leave this as an exercise to imagination.

I'm very sorry for the person you choose to be, then

Because I understand that insults are insults, and use them accordingly?

Maybe you are running out of things to feel sorry about.

Either way, this conversation has run its course. Have a wonderful rest of your day.

Re: OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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Post by sireat »

The latest clickbait style can be mitigated by custom instructions. I use: "Tell it like it is; don't sugar-coat responses. Use academic university level explanations unless instructed otherwise. Do not end with teaser offers or curiosity hooks. Give the full answer immediately. If related topics exist, show them as a brief bullet list. Use professional language and style."

Now I actually often like the related topics hooks, just not the clickbaity version from last few weeks.

If not for Codex performing so well for me from VS Code I'd happily migrate to Claude or Gemini.

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