Have you considered including Gemini and gopher support? There is a very nice small web community there.
This looks like it depends on Javascript for interactivity, which by design isn't possible on Gopher/Gemini.
Wander – A tiny, decentralised tool to explore the small web
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Re: Wander – A tiny, decentralised tool to explore the small web
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Re: Wander – A tiny, decentralised tool to explore the small web
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
17 + 11 URLs from https://dahlstrand.net/wander/wander.js + 26 URLs from https://www.siddharthagolu.com/wander/wander.js that I link to from the above link. So 54 URLs so far. The number of URLs grow as more people add this tool to their website and add each other as neighbours. The tool is capable of discovering neighbouring consoles and showing URLs from there.
Did we just reinvent webrings 25 years later? :) (Not a diss. Webrings were cool.)
Isn't this more of a webgraph?
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It doesn't seem very hard to implement in your own site, so it might gain some traction? It's not super-complex, I understand it is some sort of interconnected spin on webrings, which are still somewhat popular among small websites. If anybody wants to find truly random small websites, I recommend using Wiby (search engine). It has some neat stuff.
> It doesn't seem very hard to implement in your own site Depends on how technically sophisticated the author is. Many of the blogs I was thinking about were not written by people familiar with web stuffs. They are hosted on managed hosting services like wordpress.com and blogspot, or on hosting providers with streamlined services that require no technical skills to use. Setting up this tool may very well be beyond w…
Assuming you consider services like Wordpress and blogspot outside of the small web, people advocating that domain refuse to acknowledge why those services are successful to begin with.
If being part of the small web requires technical expertise, it will always be limited to tech minded people who also happen to cook and play guitar.
Re: Wander – A tiny, decentralised tool to explore the small web
#95This is excellent. Thank you! I've now added it to my website (after restyling the console a bit to make everything match)!
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> If that's not desirable, it could be avoided by having the client keep a running list of all the consoles it has discovered this session and choosing from that list at random. Implemented in https://codeberg.org/susam/wander/commit/f4d95fa >. Thanks again for the discussion!
It would be nice if it wasn’t so framed in. How about a simpler “wander” overlay button that stays fixed (a bit like google recaptcha in the bottom corner) and pops up the console with links?
You can do this via html/css without breaking the functionality.
Re: Wander – A tiny, decentralised tool to explore the small web
#97It would be cool if the javascript were re-written a bit to only use standard long existing javascript features so one didn't have to run a modern corporate browser to use the "wander" functionality. It did not work in my browser even with JS enabled.
Hello @superkuh, if you happen to revisit this, could you let me know which browser and version you were using? It would help me decide how far back I should support.
Re: Wander – A tiny, decentralised tool to explore the small web
#98It would be cool if the javascript were re-written a bit to only use standard long existing javascript features so one didn't have to run a modern corporate browser to use the "wander" functionality. It did not work in my browser even with JS enabled.
Hello @superkuh, if you happen to revisit this, could you let me know which browser and version you were using? It would help me decide how far back I should support.
Hi susam thanks for the heads up on IRC. I'm using an ancient firefox fork from ~2015 called Palemoon 26.5. I use it because it's the best available on my computer with the good screen reader and text to speech setup. I am not a javascript developer but my JS console says
"SyntaxError: Missing ; before statement" on line 136: let consoles = window.wander.consoles
I'd bet it's that 'let' that's emcascript6. I sort of have a polyfill extension for some things from es6 but not all.
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Hello @superkuh, if you happen to revisit this, could you let me know which browser and version you were using? It would help me decide how far back I should support.
Hi susam thanks for the heads up on IRC. I'm using an ancient firefox fork from ~2015 called Palemoon 26.5. I use it because it's the best available on my computer with the good screen reader and text to speech setup. I am not a javascript developer but my JS console says "SyntaxError: Missing ; before statement" on line 136: let consoles = window.wander.consoles I'd bet it's that 'let' that's emcascript6. I sort of…
Thank you. This makes a lot of sense. I need to think it through since 'let' is one of the things about modern JavaScript that I quite like, so I need to decide whether I really want to go back to using 'var' again.
To be honest, I resisted adopting ES6 features for quite a long time because I was concerned about exactly this kind of situation, where a modern feature might not work in an older browser that is still in use. However, in 2022, prompted by ESLint's no-var rule [1], I began using ES6 features in my code [2]. Now I find myself wondering whether my earlier, more conservative approach to JavaScript might have been the better approach.
In any case, thank you very much for following up on this thread. It has given me something to think about.
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#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
It would be nice if it wasn’t so framed in. How about a simpler “wander” overlay button that stays fixed (a bit like google recaptcha in the bottom corner) and pops up the console with links?
You can do this via html/css without breaking the functionality.
Ah I see, I said nothing then :)