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Re: Digg is gone again

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Post by al_borland »

amatecha wrote: post #67

More evidence that "millions of people in the same room" isn't a sustainable model for online communities. I've been feeling for years that some kind of "chain of trust" and/or "X degrees of separation" reputation model is basically inevitable for broad-scale online social communities.

I wonder if the old forum model would work. Instead of these mega-forum-platfroms, there are just small communities with a niche focus at their own URL.

I suppose bots could find forums that use the most popular software and still make accounts and spam, but it would be much more obvious and less fruitful for someone to spam deck builders in Vancouver (something I saw often on Digg) on a forum that is focused on aquariums owners in the midwest.

Re: Digg is gone again

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Post by pacomerh »

int32_64 wrote: post #49

I would pay cash for access to a social site that bans all US politics, the astroturfing associated with it is simply unbearable.

Wouldn't that be almost impossible?. Politics affects our lives every day. Your comment suggests that you believe it doesn't affect yours.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empathy

Re: Digg is gone again

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Post by joeross »

ranger_danger wrote: post #53
RobotToaster wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're looking for a new platform lemmy is probably your best bet, at least if a server goes down everything is still saved on federated servers.

My experience with lemmy has not been nice. A majority of people there are just downright awful, and the mods are often power-hungry and overzealous in their actions. Many times entire servers are defederated from many others due to how a large percentage of their users behave. Example: https://0x0.st/8RmU.png

Lemmy has the same energy as ice: a bunch of rejects from other mod communities showing up to render their version of justice upon federated folks

Re: Digg is gone again

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Post by dillona »

idatum wrote: post #73
calmbonsai wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cutting staff does in no way mandate a un-notified and abrupt "hard-reset". They could at least put it in read-only mode for a short time and allow downloading of extant community content prior to a scheduled "reset day". This smacks of flailing leadership and zero respect for their target user demographic.

> Digg's founder who started the company back in 2004 Their plan is to make the internet what is was 22 years ago.

I wonder how much it's possible to recreate some of the old magic.

I'm sure it's impossible, but what if it's not?

Re: Digg is gone again

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Post by duxup »

int32_64 wrote: post #49

I would pay cash for access to a social site that bans all US politics, the astroturfing associated with it is simply unbearable.

For a short time I was a part of a small site that banned politics.

It was fine, people talked about work, personal stuff, travel, until one person posted about their disappointment that their state was limiting various services or rights to gay people. For them this meant their rights were in question and they were understandably upset.

Immediately some folks cried politics and that they shouldn’t post about that sort of thing.

To the user posting it it was about their life…

I don’t think “no politics” rules really make much sense. For someone it’s more than politics, and IMO because a topic is touched by politicians or government shouldn’t make it disallowed.

Re: Digg is gone again

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Post by no-name-here »

sunaookami wrote: post #56

The "new" Digg was just Reddit with the exact same type of comments you can find there and I left it (Digg and Reddit) because of that. There are very few sites where real discourse is still possible without it being filled with memes, running jokes, "witty" one-liners and the constant need to "one-up" and call-out each other. What does Digg even want to be? Nobody needs a second nu-Reddit. It speaks volumes that thi…

> sites where real discourse is still possible without it being filled with memes, running jokes, “witty” one-liners [etc]

There are subreddits within Reddit such as https://www.reddit.com/r/neutralnews/ that have strict rules around sourcing, etc. However, I think that’s not what most users want, and may not be quite what you’re looking for either, apologies.

Re: Digg is gone again

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Post by ranger_danger »

RobotToaster wrote: post #69
ranger_danger wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My experience with lemmy has not been nice. A majority of people there are just downright awful, and the mods are often power-hungry and overzealous in their actions. Many times entire servers are defederated from many others due to how a large percentage of their users behave. Example: https://0x0.st/8RmU.png

Yeah, the primary instance (lemmy.ml) isn't the best. I use mander.xyz, it's science focused, but they also have a policy of only de-federating instances that host CSAM.

Where is that policy located? I could not find it.

Their /instances page also only shows a single blocked instance, whereas something like programming.dev shows lots of questionable instances blocked.

Re: Digg is gone again

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Post by georgeburdell »

bobsmooth wrote: post #85
mikeocool wrote: post #51

Kinda seems like we’re rapidly headed for the complete collapse of the internet as we know it. Every site that is driven by user posting seems to be headed towards being overrun by AI bots chatting with each other, either for sake of promoting something or farming karma. And there’s really not much point in publishing good content anymore, since AI is just going slurp it up and regurgitate it without driving you any…

Unless you're allowed to say slurs without being banned, your forum will be overrun with bots. The sanitation of the internet is the perfect breeding ground for brand-safe AI promotion bots.

4chan has bots too.

Re: Digg is gone again

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Post by wibbily »

diacritical wrote: post #90
mikeocool wrote: post #51

Kinda seems like we’re rapidly headed for the complete collapse of the internet as we know it. Every site that is driven by user posting seems to be headed towards being overrun by AI bots chatting with each other, either for sake of promoting something or farming karma. And there’s really not much point in publishing good content anymore, since AI is just going slurp it up and regurgitate it without driving you any…

> And there’s really not much point in publishing good content anymore, since AI is just going slurp it up and regurgitate it without driving you any traffic. You just published good content knowing AI will slurp it up and not give you any traffic in return. I'm now replying to you with more content with the same expectations about AI and traffic. Why care about AI or traffic or recognition? Isn't the content the thi…

It's two different problems. People who run review sites and blogs and such care about traffic, and not getting attribution will kill their desire to participate. People who post here and on Reddit etc. care about talking with other human beings, and feeling ignored in a sea of botspam will kill *their* desire to participate.
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