Where are the most popular alternatives to Jira?
I'm interested in OSS alternatives, even if not as popular.
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Atlassian to cut roughly 1,600 jobs in pivot to AI
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Re: Atlassian to cut roughly 1,600 jobs in pivot to AI
#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
Does it matter how someone gets their work done as long as its done on time? Why does using a specific tool matter?
To add to the speculation, it's possible that the people refusing to use it are working slower. Even if the code that they write is objectively better by any metric you'd like, humans can't really pump out code as fast as Claude or Codex can. If you can get something into "good enough" territory in 1/10th the time of someone who can get it into "great" territory, that is often worth it.
I genuinely don't believe the rate at which you produce code matters.
Re: Atlassian to cut roughly 1,600 jobs in pivot to AI
#93Layoffs because of AI make no sense to me. Imagine you own a company that is paid to deliver packages. You use horses and differentiate by delivering quicker than everyone else. Then cars are invented and everyone starts delivering packages faster. In what world does a healthy growing business react to this by laying off couriers "in a pivot to automotive transportation". Would a healthy business not switch everyone…
It makes quite a bit of sense if the size of your market doesn't expand along with the new technology and you don't have a competitive advantage. Just because you have the capability to deliver more packages doesn't necessarily mean you'll have customers willing to pay you to deliver more packages.
Re: Atlassian to cut roughly 1,600 jobs in pivot to AI
#94Please don't tell me that Jira is about to get even worse... I don't understand the AI layoffs; there's always an infinite supply of new work that could be done. Instead of firing 1600 people, why not have all of them use AI to produce more stuff and outrun their competitors. Presumably all their competitors also know about Claude as well, and a lot of these 1600 people will go work for them and use Claude. Unless th…
I mean, if they are using more AI and less of the devs who made it what it is... it might be better? A little tongue-in-cheek, but I find jira and confluence much less annoying now that I just made a claude skill for each of them and now I don't have to interact with their UI very often anymore
Re: Atlassian to cut roughly 1,600 jobs in pivot to AI
#95Atlassian is cutting another 1600 jobs because it needs to cut more jobs as it is a dying company with terrible products. But let's try to spin it up as if we were some kind of AI mavens who are reaping humongous increases in productivity due to our thought leadership in AI.
TBF they have made major improvements, IMHO, to Jira and Confluence over the past few years.
Re: Atlassian to cut roughly 1,600 jobs in pivot to AI
#96Atlassian is cutting another 1600 jobs because it needs to cut more jobs as it is a dying company with terrible products. But let's try to spin it up as if we were some kind of AI mavens who are reaping humongous increases in productivity due to our thought leadership in AI.
Global uncertainty
Tariffs
War in the Middle East
US economy that would likely be in recession if not for massive datacenter spend
Oil at ~$100
But we're laying people off because... AI
Re: Atlassian to cut roughly 1,600 jobs in pivot to AI
#97I see. So AI is reducing the number of jobs in the tech sector because fewer people are needed to ship stuff (thanks to AI). And since fewer people are needed across the tech sector then we don't need things like Jira anymore because it can all be done on post-its or Google sheets or something, so there's no need for Atlassian accounts anymore. And Atlassian can now do more with less thanks to AI.
I can't wait for Atlassian physical sticky-notes to take over.
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Re: Atlassian to cut roughly 1,600 jobs in pivot to AI
#98Atlassian is cutting another 1600 jobs because it needs to cut more jobs as it is a dying company with terrible products. But let's try to spin it up as if we were some kind of AI mavens who are reaping humongous increases in productivity due to our thought leadership in AI.
TBF they have made major improvements, IMHO, to Jira and Confluence over the past few years.
Anything in particular? I first used it about 10 years ago, on prem, and am currently using the cloud version. Current edition is clunky, slow, and constantly badgers me with Rovo shit I can't disable. IMHO, it reeks of a product once built by and for technical people that eventually got dumbed down by POs to the point of being painful for the original users. Obviously I'm no longer the target user because I assume someone somewhere appreciates these changes.
Re: Atlassian to cut roughly 1,600 jobs in pivot to AI
#99Layoffs because of AI make no sense to me. Imagine you own a company that is paid to deliver packages. You use horses and differentiate by delivering quicker than everyone else. Then cars are invented and everyone starts delivering packages faster. In what world does a healthy growing business react to this by laying off couriers "in a pivot to automotive transportation". Would a healthy business not switch everyone…
You need a very different skill set and culture for driving and maintaining cars than for driving and maintaining horses. I honestly think that for big changes like this (if you are willing to accept that AI is such), looking at it from the portfolio management angle, it makes more sense to just nuke the current operation and start a greenfield one.
> it makes more sense to just nuke the current operation and start a greenfield one
Why? What was wrong with the 1600 people they sacked? Do they have a magical 1600-person hire pool with the AI skills they want?
Re: Atlassian to cut roughly 1,600 jobs in pivot to AI
#100Atlassian is cutting another 1600 jobs because it needs to cut more jobs as it is a dying company with terrible products. But let's try to spin it up as if we were some kind of AI mavens who are reaping humongous increases in productivity due to our thought leadership in AI.
I honestly hope someone will read this comment and vibecode an Atlassian 2.0 platform, preferably open source. But really, I will take closed source and paid as well - just give me something that's on par in terms of features and integration but without the terrible UX.
To be clear, I agree with the terrible products part - but currently they are not dying because there is no alternative platform which is flexible, scalable and feature-complete enough. You may find alternatives for niches, like GitHub for software engineering, but the Atlassian stuff allows for knowledge transfer and familiarity across many many domains. I've seen it used anywhere from government burocracy to customer service and construction companies. They nailed the abstraction for flexible issue management, just the implementation is terrible.