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Re: India's top court angry after junior judge cites fake AI-generated orders

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Post by koakuma-chan »

paxys wrote: post #81
chris_wot wrote: post #18

In Australia, our universities are finding that a large proportion of Indian students have been using GenAI for cheating. Often they get away with it. I'm not saying that people other than Indian overseas students cheat, but it does seem more entrenched. I'd love to know why. It doesn't actually help in the long term!

Hate to break it to you but everyone is cheating using AI.

How do you cheat on exams in real time? I saw somebody embed ChatGPT into a calculator, but at that point it's easier to just study.

Re: India's top court angry after junior judge cites fake AI-generated orders

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Post by whatever1 »

The vast majority of court cases lead to dismissal.

Why not use AI to adjudicate cases, and if it is dismissal, dismissal it is.

If not then move to a proper court.

This way the backlog of cases will significantly drop, and we will work only on cases that there is enough meat to lead to a conviction.

Re: India's top court angry after junior judge cites fake AI-generated orders

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Post by arunc »

> Senior judges at the Supreme Court in Delhi have threatened consequences over the use of AI

Setting AI aside for a moment, this reflects a broader issue in India and elsewhere. When institutions respond to new technologies with anger or threats rather than systemic thinking, it signals a deeper problem.

The real challenge is not AI itself, but how complex systems adapt to change. Instead of reacting defensively, institutions should anticipate second-order effects, build regulatory capacity, and treat this as a governance and systems problem.

Mature institutions approach disruption with foresight, incentives, and feedback loops, not emotions. Without that shift, they risk reinforcing outdated hierarchies rather than serving the public effectively.

Re: India's top court angry after junior judge cites fake AI-generated orders

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Post by tamimio »

I wonder how many similar cases are happening in the engineering or software development sector that go unnoticed, and it seems no one is caring enough, only waiting for a disaster to happen so we can start seeing some regulation preventing the use of AI in engineering/coding industry.

Re: India's top court angry after junior judge cites fake AI-generated orders

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Post by malshe »

zthrowaway wrote: post #4
voidUpdate wrote: post #2

How many of these cases do we have to have before lawyers realise that they need to check that the things an LLM tells them are actually true?

Do we see this a lot in the US? This seems to be more unique to India.

From the article:

> In October, two federal judges in the US were called out for the use of AI tools which led to errors in their rulings. In June 2025, the High Court of England and Wales warned lawyers not to use AI-generated case material after a series of cases cited fictitious or partially made up rulings.

Re: India's top court angry after junior judge cites fake AI-generated orders

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Post by sharpy »

amelius wrote: post #66
cmiles8 wrote: post #14

There will be many more things like this and it’s an elephant in the room for the supposed mass replacement of people with AI. Some human still has to be accountable. Someone has to get fired / go to jail when something screws up. You can make humans more productive but for the foreseeable future you can’t take the human out of the loop to have an AI implementation that’s not a disaster/lawsuit waiting to happen. Tha…

We should have more hygiene when it comes to AI. Text coming out of an LLM should be in a special codeblock of Unicode, so we can see it is generated by AI. Failing to do so (or tampering with it) should be considered bad hygiene, and should be treated like a doctor who doesn't wash their hands before surgery.

What will that accomplish? Does it give license to developers to check in code that they don't understand/trust fully?

Ultimately, people should be responsible for the code they commit, no matter how it was written. If AI generates code that is so bad that it warrants putting up warning sign, it shouldn't be checked in.

Re: India's top court angry after junior judge cites fake AI-generated orders

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Post by delaminator »

general_reveal wrote: post #63
cmiles8 wrote: post #14

There will be many more things like this and it’s an elephant in the room for the supposed mass replacement of people with AI. Some human still has to be accountable. Someone has to get fired / go to jail when something screws up. You can make humans more productive but for the foreseeable future you can’t take the human out of the loop to have an AI implementation that’s not a disaster/lawsuit waiting to happen. Tha…

Or, AI is going to be like when land lines became unnecessary when cellphones showed up in India. India may get to skip an entire intellectual generation due to the ability of a cheap model to educate (in any language). The narrative that an entire population are “worth” less, paid less , know less, live less … Fuck this less shit, embrace the paradigm shift. God is finally providing the remedial support through the…

Some people are worth more than others.

Some cultures are better than others.

Re: India's top court angry after junior judge cites fake AI-generated orders

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Post by dyauspitr »

whatever1 wrote: post #92

The vast majority of court cases lead to dismissal. Why not use AI to adjudicate cases, and if it is dismissal, dismissal it is. If not then move to a proper court. This way the backlog of cases will significantly drop, and we will work only on cases that there is enough meat to lead to a conviction.

Or atleast use the AI to prioritize and sort cases will a tentative decision that is not binding.

Re: India's top court angry after junior judge cites fake AI-generated orders

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Post by malshe »

chris_wot wrote: post #18

In Australia, our universities are finding that a large proportion of Indian students have been using GenAI for cheating. Often they get away with it. I'm not saying that people other than Indian overseas students cheat, but it does seem more entrenched. I'd love to know why. It doesn't actually help in the long term!

Citation needed. I have seen these kinds of assertion all my life without any evidence to back them up. For example, when I moved to the US, I was told, again without any evidence, Chinese students cheat a lot. It's always a couple of faculty who extrapolate their experiences with a few students and then slap racial labels on the entire student body.

Re: India's top court angry after junior judge cites fake AI-generated orders

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Post by Gud »

bookofjoe wrote: post #87
cmiles8 wrote: post #14

There will be many more things like this and it’s an elephant in the room for the supposed mass replacement of people with AI. Some human still has to be accountable. Someone has to get fired / go to jail when something screws up. You can make humans more productive but for the foreseeable future you can’t take the human out of the loop to have an AI implementation that’s not a disaster/lawsuit waiting to happen. Tha…

>Some human still has to be accountable. Someone has to get fired / go to jail when something screws up. I remember growing up and always hearing "The computer is down" as an excuse for why things were cancelled/offices closed/buses and trains not running/ad infinitum. At some point I read a article that pointed out that the reason the computer was down was because a person made a [coding] error: the computer itself…

Why does a person need to be disciplined because they made a mistake?
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