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Re: Ars Technica fires reporter after AI controversy involving fabricated quotes

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Post by lynx97 »

petterroea wrote: post #78
gertop wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AnonC doesn't seem to be upset that the journalist was fired. The disappointment comes from Ars trying to brush this entire situation away by deleting articles, comments, and making no statement on their website.

My understanding is that AnonC is upset at Ars not taking the mature approach by allowing this to become a learning moment for the employee and using it to double down and confirm their stance on AI generated content. There's strength in maturity. But I am doing some reading between the lines, and I'm possibly reading a bit too much into "There’s something to be said about the value of owning up to issues" Reminds me…

There is a difference between an error and totally misunderstand your actual task. I have absolutely no sympathy for journalists getting caught producing hallucinated articles. Thats an absolute no go, and should always result in that person being fired.

Re: Ars Technica fires reporter after AI controversy involving fabricated quotes

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Post by esperent »

DetroitThrow wrote: post #84
esperent wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All they had to do was write a clear and simple message saying that one of their staff was responsible, has been fired, and they'll take steps to avoid this in future. Their actions so far just make me think they're panicking and found a scapegoat to blame it on, but they're not going to put any new checks in place so it'll just happen again.

It was against their policy to use AI in producing any part of the final article, and the writer was aware of that. I feel bad for the guy, but there's just no way I can imagine much better safeguards other than editors paying more close attention to referencing sources, and hiring more reliable people.

Yes, those are exactly the kind of steps they would need to publicly commit to in order to retain trust. And yet, instead we get silence, no acceptance that some measure of responsibility falls on the editorial team here. So it's clear they just hope it'll blow over without them having to do anything, which is the opposite of what a trustworthy site would do.

Re: Ars Technica fires reporter after AI controversy involving fabricated quotes

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Post by neya »

dang wrote: post #31
neya wrote: post #24

[flagged]

Would you please stop breaking the site guidelines? I just had to ask you this in a different context. You may not owe your least favorite publications better, but you owe this community better if you're participating in it. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

> I just had to ask you this in a different context.

Sorry, I just searched my comment history, maybe I missed it? Was it recent?

Re: Ars Technica fires reporter after AI controversy involving fabricated quotes

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Post by dirkc »

raincole wrote: post #39

I have to admit, nowadays Google AI Overview's accuracy is so good that I often don't check the links. It's scary that it got from 'practically useless' to 'the actual google search' in less than two years. I really don't know where the internet is heading to and how any content site can survive.

Well, I hope you take this story as a caution that you shouldn't do that in any way that can seriously compromise your career/health/finances.

Re: Ars Technica fires reporter after AI controversy involving fabricated quotes

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Post by neya »

apparent wrote: post #36
neya wrote: post #24

[flagged]

Can you elaborate? Perhaps I haven't noticed that they push pro-sponsored content (what does this mean, exactly?). I do find their comment section to be pretty lousy, and very partisan. But the tech coverage always seemed fair enough. What am I missing?

If you feed their articles into a python script that identifies biases, subtle upsells and advertorials, you will see bunch of it is exactly just promotional marketing for some companies. They also almost never report the news, just opinions of it.

Re: Ars Technica fires reporter after AI controversy involving fabricated quotes

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Post by swyx »

dang wrote: post #29
geerlingguy wrote: post #20

Context from earlier discussion of the article being pulled: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47009949

Thanks! and indeed - here's the sequence (in the usual reverse order). If there are missing threads we can add them... An AI Agent Published a Hit Piece on Me – The Operator Came Forward - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47083145 - Feb 2026 (501 comments) OpenClaw is dangerous - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47064470 - Feb 2026 (93 comments) An AI Agent Published a Hit Piece on Me – Forensics and More Fal…

also how the heck do you pull all these related things, do you have a semantic/agentic search bot by now or is this all just from your head?

Re: Ars Technica fires reporter after AI controversy involving fabricated quotes

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

DetroitThrow wrote: post #84
esperent wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All they had to do was write a clear and simple message saying that one of their staff was responsible, has been fired, and they'll take steps to avoid this in future. Their actions so far just make me think they're panicking and found a scapegoat to blame it on, but they're not going to put any new checks in place so it'll just happen again.

It was against their policy to use AI in producing any part of the final article, and the writer was aware of that. I feel bad for the guy, but there's just no way I can imagine much better safeguards other than editors paying more close attention to referencing sources, and hiring more reliable people.

You have to give them time to do the job properly as well. Companies will often pay lip service to standards then squeeze their staff so much those standards are impossible to attain.

Re: Ars Technica fires reporter after AI controversy involving fabricated quotes

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Post by autoexec »

DetroitThrow wrote: post #84
esperent wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All they had to do was write a clear and simple message saying that one of their staff was responsible, has been fired, and they'll take steps to avoid this in future. Their actions so far just make me think they're panicking and found a scapegoat to blame it on, but they're not going to put any new checks in place so it'll just happen again.

It was against their policy to use AI in producing any part of the final article, and the writer was aware of that. I feel bad for the guy, but there's just no way I can imagine much better safeguards other than editors paying more close attention to referencing sources, and hiring more reliable people.

> It was against their policy to use AI in producing any part of the final article, and the writer was aware of that.

More than that, as a reporter on AI he should have been fully aware that AI frequently bullshits and lies. He should have known it was not reliable and that its output needs to be carefully verified by a human if you care at all about the accuracy or quality of what it gives you. His excuse that this was done in a fever induced state of madness feels weak when it was his whole job to know that AI was not an appropriate tool for the task.

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