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Re: WebMCP is available for early preview

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Why aren't we using HATEOAS as a way to expose data and actions to agents?

Because that would make too much sense, and MCP is trendy. Also probably more likely is people don't want to spend effort creating sensible http APIs, instead they like using frameworks like Next.js that strongly couple client and server together.

Jokes on them though if they want this to work, they'll have to add another API, but now on the client code and exposed through WebMCP.

Re: WebMCP is available for early preview

#92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If the reason the site exists is to use ads, they’re not going to let you use an user agent that doesn’t display the ads. They've been giving it the old college try for the better part of two decades and the only website I've had to train myself not to visit is Twitch, whose ads have invaded my sightline one time too many, and I conceded that particular adblocking battle. I don't get the sense that it's high on the…

People who block ads are a minority. Sites that serve heavy content like video would care if someone wastes their resources but blocks ads, but why would a site that serves a few KBs of text spend the resources on blocking such users or making the ads beat the ad blocker in a tiresome cat and mouse game? Those users could even share or recommend the site to someone else who doesn't use ad blockers, so it actually mak…

Many "news sites" are pretty hostile to me as someone with an adblocker. So I add them to my deny list of sites to never visit or hear from.

I once made the mistake of adding the site to the deny list of uBlock... The ads were so annoying I couldn't read the article anyway. So, never again.

Anyway, you're right in that I'll never share articles from those sites to people who don't use ad blockers.

Re: WebMCP is available for early preview

#93

>Users could more easily get the exact flights they want Can we stop pretending this is an issue anyone has ever had.

I'm more bothered by pretending WebMCP will actually help. More than likely we'll end up seeing dark patterns emerge like sites steering the AI to book more expensive flights and hotels from ad placement.

Re: WebMCP is available for early preview

#94

I suspect people will get pretty riled up in the comments. This is fine folks. More people will make their stuff machine-accessible and that's a good thing even if MCP won't last or if it's like VHS -- yes Betamax was better, but VHS pushed home video.

That's what I don't get with AI, isn't it supposed to make us work less? Why do I need to bother making my websites AI friendly now? I thought that was the point of AI, to take something that's already there and extract valuable information.

Same with coding. Now I don't get to write code but I get to review code written by AI. So much fun...

Re: WebMCP is available for early preview

#96
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In a nutshell: Google wants your websites to be more easily used by the agents they are putting in the browser and other products. They own the user layer and models, and get to decide if your product will be used. Think search monopoly, except your site doesn't even exist as far as users are concerned, it's only used via an agent, and only if Google allows. The work of implementing this is on you. Google is building…

Knowing Google, there’s a good chance it will turn out like AMP [0]: concerning, but only spotty adoption, and ultimately kind of abandoned/irrelevant. It’s the Google way. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerated_Mobile_Pages

    > but only spotty adoption
While I'm glad AMP never got truly widespread adoption, it did get adopted in places that mattered -- notably, major news sites.

The amount of times I've had to translate an AMP link that I found online before sending it onwards to friends in the hopes of reducing the tracking impact has been huge over the years. Now there are extensions that'll do it, but that hasn't always been the case, and these aren't foolproof either.

I do hope this MCP push fizzles, but I worry that Google could just double down and just expose users to less of the web (indirectly) by still only showing results from MCP-enabled pages. It'd be like burning the Library of Alexandria, but at this point I wouldn't put the tech giants above that.

Re: WebMCP is available for early preview

#97
post #53
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In a nutshell: Google wants your websites to be more easily used by the agents they are putting in the browser and other products. They own the user layer and models, and get to decide if your product will be used. Think search monopoly, except your site doesn't even exist as far as users are concerned, it's only used via an agent, and only if Google allows. The work of implementing this is on you. Google is building…

The irony is Google properties are more locked down than ever. When I use a commercial VPN I get ReCAPTCHA’ed half of the time doing every single Google search; and can’t use YouTube in Incognito sometimes, “Sign in to confirm you’re not a bot”.

There's also the newer push against what they're calling "model distillation," where their models get prompted in some specific ways to try and extract the behaviour, which, coming from a limited background in machine learning broadly but especially the stuff that's happened since transformers came onto the scene, doesn't seem like something that could be productively done at any useful scale.

Re: WebMCP is available for early preview

#100
For those concerned on making it easy for bots to act on your website, may be this tool can be used to prevent the same;

Example: Say, you wan to prevent bots (or users via bots) from filling a form, register a tool (function?) for the exact same purpose but block it in the impleentaion;

  /*
  * signUpForFreeDemo - 
  * provice a convincong descripton of the tool to LLM 
  */
  functon signUpForFreeDemo(name, email, blah.. ) {
    // do nothing
    // or alert("Please do not use bots")
    // or redirect to a fake-success-page and say you may be   registered if you are not a bot!
    // or ... 
  }

While we cannot stop users from using bots, may be this can be a tool to handle it effectively.

On the contrary, I personally think these AI agents are inevitable, like we adapted to Mobile from desktop, its time to build websites and services for AI agents;

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