Waymo blocking ambulance during deadly Austin shooting

Post by patrick451 » Sun, Mar 01, 2026, 11:39 PM UTC

SlinkyOnStairs wrote: post #83

fragmede wrote: post #27

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Waymo's are not about to run a person or bicyclist over. Just walk in front of them and they'll stop for you to cross. You can always start livestreaming if you don't believe it, the insurance payout would be amazing . (Subject to the laws of physics, naturally.) Source: Haven't been run over yet by one, and I live in one of their current markets.

> Waymo's are not about to run a person or bicyclist over. This has only introduced more novel problems. People can completely immobilize the vehicles by standing in front of them, or placing a traffic cone. (And while this is kind of funny when done to unused vehicles to bother a multi-trillion dollar corporation. It is not funny when it's done to harass women.) This in turn spirals into a whole new set of political…

Post by jeffbee » Sun, Mar 01, 2026, 11:41 PM UTC

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Human driven cars cost people their lives multiple times every day, though. So I don't think the calculation can be quite as simple as that. As self driving cars are rolled out I think each incident like this needs to be studied to see how avoidable it was, whether a human would have been able to resolve it, and what changes can be made. There are always going to be fuck ups at some level. The question is whether we’…

But in the case of self driving cars, who do we find at fault? Have we even answered that question? I mean did the Waymo car even get a ticket for blocking the ambulance?

Post by dabinat » Sun, Mar 01, 2026, 11:43 PM UTC

small_model wrote: post #93

Another example of Waymo betting wrong, lots of expensive sensors vs Tesla with cameras and NN trained on billions of real miles (i.e. human like autonomy). A Tesla would have moved as it's trained to recognise this situation.

Post by plagiarist » Sun, Mar 01, 2026, 11:45 PM UTC

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> You can arrest a driver for not making space for an emergency vehicle. Who do we arrest here? That's the best part, no one! We have finally managed to invent a system that widely disperses accountability so much no one can be held liable when something goes wrong.

>no one can be held liable when something goes wrong. No, at the very least tort laws still apply even if the driver is a corporation. Do you really need someone sitting in jail to satisfy your justice boner?

Post by bastawhiz » Sun, Mar 01, 2026, 11:47 PM UTC

small_model wrote: post #93

Another example of Waymo betting wrong, lots of expensive sensors vs Tesla with cameras and NN trained on billions of real miles (i.e. human like autonomy). A Tesla would have moved as it's trained to recognise this situation.