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Techno‑feudal elite are attempting to build a twenty‑first‑century fascist state

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post #43

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Not to get into politics too much, but surely that is a bit different. EU right wing populism and conservative raise had been slowly happening for some 15-20 years. US for 14 months.

Trump was elected in 2016, the Snowden leaks are from 2013. These processes have been going on for a while, and those aren't the earliest indicators.

We can go all the way back to the Patriot Act honestly. All admins have perpetuated this. Trump is just end game.

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#92

In the past times where Czar elite could be executed like cattle and when French kings knew their heads could fly off guillotines, the elites were *behaving*. There was an unspoked social contract that you do shit for us, and we let you do be yourselves, whatever you do. Nowadays, we have wonderful law and nobody is responsible for anything, nobody is prosecuted, just fucking nothing. Time for pitchforks?

Don't make the mistake of idealizing the past. It took a decade of terrible winters and famine for the head of a single French king to be parted from his body. And it took one century more for a lasting Republic to be born.

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#93
post #50

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Woke only exists in the mind of the far right.

I don’t know, I’m grouping runaway feminism and high LGBT visibility and celebration as woke.

So what's your position on trans people? Persecute them, or let them be? Persecute half of them perhaps?

Re: Techno‑feudal elite are attempting to build a twenty‑first‑century fascist state

#94
post #12

Look, if a techno-fascist state is what's needed for me to continue not having to write any code anymore, then I will gladly accept it. Techno-fascism is preferable to the horrors of Agile. /s

Interesting connection. Are the tenets "Individuals and interactions over processes and tools" and "Responding to change over following a plan" aligned with fascism?

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#95
post #63

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How convenient that your analysis elides debt servicing from war and increased discretionary military spending. Debt rose the most under Reagan and Bush and now Trump with the same call for cutting taxes while bloating military spending. And let's not forget the TARP and other bailouts in 2008. But by all means, talk about "corrective market forces that curb waste" -- tell me, when has any government in history been run by "market forces"?

Re: Techno‑feudal elite are attempting to build a twenty‑first‑century fascist state

#96
post #93

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I don’t know, I’m grouping runaway feminism and high LGBT visibility and celebration as woke.

So what's your position on trans people? Persecute them, or let them be? Persecute half of them perhaps?

Don’t persecute them at all. Live and let live. In my opinion though I believe it is a form of mental illness. It’s not based on genetic or hormonal anomalies so it’s purely a condition of the mind. Still it’s none of my business.

Re: Techno‑feudal elite are attempting to build a twenty‑first‑century fascist state

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post #18
post #3

The article is unpleasantly accurate.

> a transnational “authoritarian international” in which oligarchs, political operatives, royal families, security chiefs, and organized criminals cooperate to monetize state power while protecting one another from scrutiny. At least the crackpots now get to see what a real deep state (concentrated power behind public facade) looks like.

This has been going on since the dawn of capitalism, probably before that.

Re: Techno‑feudal elite are attempting to build a twenty‑first‑century fascist state

#98
post #63

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That the highest earners pay the most taxes in nominal terms should not be a surprise, it's just basic math. 10% of $1B is still more than 20% of $1M. These self-annointed elites are still hoarding an incredible amount of wealth, with average tax rates that are often more lower than lower income brackets. Yet, they consume more services than lower income people. Social Security is more than 90% funded by payroll taxe…

> you seem to suggest that The Free Market could correct our path to fascism, and that pesky human services and wanton over-regulation are what are really preventing us from reaching our final enlightened form...

Not quite. I am merely pointing out that capitalism and free markets are not the enemy and that larger, more involved governments, which the political left (to which I'd assign the author) support, are a perfect breeding ground for sleaze, corruption and nepotism. This effect btw. can be observed in all of the states in which socialism has been tried. Each and every time, without exception, citizens are fleeing from these countries into capitalist countries and it's never the other way round.

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#100

Modern social media has only been around for maybe 10-15 years. The honeymoon phase of the 2000s and early 2010s was probably the peak of value for the individual user, but I would say in the mid 2010s the value began to tilt and now the corps extract far more value than what they deliver to individual user’s lives. Social media today has little value beyond an engine to deliver dopamine hits, increasingly more of th…

In 10 years we won’t have the devices nor the software to run such a network. We will have state-approved devices running state-approved software. There will be no escape from brainwashing and total surveillance. The time to stop this is now.
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