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Re: We Will Not Be Divided

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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This conflict has zero to do with AI in the grand scheme of things. We had a whole supreme court case about refusing service to customers. Remember that? Private companies can choose which customers to service. And let's be clear about what's being sold. It's not a product that changes hands, it's a service provided continually. And as anyone except the enlisted military troops can, said vendor can choose which effor…

Which case is that?

Re: We Will Not Be Divided

#92
post #11

No problem! The DoD^HW will just use DeepSeek! (I wish this were a joke)

They've already been using Signal - which is "commercial" app, meaning it's not meant to be used like that - for top-secret (or at least highly sensitive) military communications during the military strikes on Yemen. If that was fake, I apologise, I was deceived. I wouldn't be surprised if things turned out that way again, to be honest. That's something to be expected, actually (IMO).

Aren't they using the Israeli version of Signal which backs up messages because the law requires it?

Pretty sure I remember that from the fumble

Re: We Will Not Be Divided

#93
post #22

I hope Anthropic will survive this. If they don’t it will just be perfect proof that you cannot be both moral and successful in the US.

>> you cannot be both moral and successful in the US. I assumed the use of massive scraped datasets, with copyrighted material and without consent, to train large AI models, had already established this.

Many people don’t think there is a moral case against training a model on copyrighted data without obtaining a license to do that specifically.

Re: We Will Not Be Divided

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd prefer something akin to the Biological Weapons Treaty which prohibits development, production and transfer. If you think it isn't possible you have to tell me why the bioweapons convention was successful and why it wouldn't be in the case of AI.

> bioweapons convention was successful Was it successful? The jury is still out.

The point I would make: there are historical examples of international cooperation that work at least for some lengths of time. This is a good thing, a good tool to strive for, albeit difficult to reach.

Re: We Will Not Be Divided

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This is why you can't gatekeep AI capabilities. It will eventually be taken from you by force. It's time to open-source everything. Papers, code, weights, financial records. Do all of your research in the open. Run 100% transparent labs so that there's nothing to take from you. Level the playing field for good and bad actors alike, otherwise the bad actors will get their hands on it while everyone else is left behind…

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Re: We Will Not Be Divided

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It's good that there are still empathic humans in the decision and build chain when it comes to AI systems...

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Personal attacks aren't allowed here.

Perhaps you don't owe AI tycoons whose names start with A better, but you owe this community better if you're participating in it.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: We Will Not Be Divided

#100
post #35

I hope Anthropic will survive this. If they don’t it will just be perfect proof that you cannot be both moral and successful in the US.

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From Palmer Luckey who worshipped Trump as a teenager? Who has billions in contracts due to his sycophancy? Just like Joe Lonsdale and Peter Thiel? Yea his opinion is irrelevant.
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