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Re: NanoClaw moved from Apple Containers to Docker

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Post by crimsonnoodle58 »

mh2266 wrote: post #80
splatzone wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about heartbeats, cron etc? Seems like a major part of the 'claw' appeal is that it can work autonomously, monitor your email inbox for stuff and take action automatically...

I hear a lot about people doing this but it really seems like it is prompt injection as a service. eventually the things that can happen when you give the world write access to an unattended LLM that can access both your browser and password reset mechanism will happen. or someone will just make it email lewd pics to people’s bosses for the lols

That theory is being tested. So far no prompt injection has broken in:

https://hackmyclaw.com/

Re: NanoClaw moved from Apple Containers to Docker

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Post by aqme28 »

splatzone wrote: post #70
_pdp_ wrote: post #61

You don't need to use OpenClaw, NanoClaw or any of these new variants. You can literally use Codex, Claude Code, Gemini, OpenCode for the same thing. The only thing that it is missing from all of them is the communication channels because none of them come with native communication tools like OpenClaw. But this is not such a big deal. I made an open-source lightweight daemon in Go that fills that gap. All it does is…

What about heartbeats, cron etc? Seems like a major part of the 'claw' appeal is that it can work autonomously, monitor your email inbox for stuff and take action automatically...

Ask your claude to make a cron to wake itself up. Done.

Re: NanoClaw moved from Apple Containers to Docker

#93

Post by juleiie »

lm28469 wrote: post #41
brcmthrowaway wrote: post #9

Can someone explain the special sauce of the claws compared to just use claude.ai etc

There is no special sauce, it's mass hysteria driven by fake adoption metrics and people who don't know anything about computers who let "agents" run free on theirs. It's the equivalent of showing a magician cut a women in a box in half to a 5 years old kid... Put them in the same category as the neckbeards getting a hard on every 3 weeks for the past 2 years when they get to see the new version of ThE PeLiCaN On A B…

You really should open your mind to what this tech can achieve. Sooner or later it will click in a way that permanently alters the reality

Re: NanoClaw moved from Apple Containers to Docker

#94

Post by rekmarks »

liminal-dev wrote: post #50
stavros wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't written it up yet but the repo is here: It's just a MEMS mic, a battery, and an ESP32, very simple but it works amazingly well. I wrote a companion Android app for it and it works extremely reliably!

Are you running NanoClaw or a different project?

He's running his own thing: https://github.com/skorokithakis/stavrobot

Re: NanoClaw moved from Apple Containers to Docker

#95

Post by toraway »

crimsonnoodle58 wrote: post #91
mh2266 wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hear a lot about people doing this but it really seems like it is prompt injection as a service. eventually the things that can happen when you give the world write access to an unattended LLM that can access both your browser and password reset mechanism will happen. or someone will just make it email lewd pics to people’s bosses for the lols

That theory is being tested. So far no prompt injection has broken in: https://hackmyclaw.com/

It's a neat idea but it's not exactly plausible real world conditions to have an agent that pretty much exclusively spends its time wading through an email inbox that's 99% repeated prompt injection attempts. As the creator acknowledges in the original thread, its context/working memory is going to be unusually cognizant of prompt injection risk at any given time vs. a more typical helpful agent "mindset" while fulfilling normal day-to-day requests. Where a malicious prompt might be slipped in via any one of dozens of different infiltration points without the convenience of a static "prompt injection inbox".

Re: NanoClaw moved from Apple Containers to Docker

#96

Post by signatoremo »

cube00 wrote: post #76
signatoremo wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's because you just lack of imagination. Imagine if you have a human personal assistant, what would you ask them to do? Examples: "Find me the cheapest ticket to Las Vegas for the first week of June. Buy one at anytime that you think is reasonable. Wait until no later than two months from now before buying. Get two tickets if my brother can also go". "Email me if anyone posts a Sega multi mega for sale. But only…

Good luck ever getting this to work when airlines still refuse to publish APIs and captcha anything that looks automated.

Well, it will work when there is enough demand. “Ever” is very long time. Are you willing to bet on it?

The point still, is that OpenClaw opens new exciting (and dangerous) opportunities for non technical users.

Re: NanoClaw moved from Apple Containers to Docker

#98

Post by avaer »

splatzone wrote: post #70
_pdp_ wrote: post #61

You don't need to use OpenClaw, NanoClaw or any of these new variants. You can literally use Codex, Claude Code, Gemini, OpenCode for the same thing. The only thing that it is missing from all of them is the communication channels because none of them come with native communication tools like OpenClaw. But this is not such a big deal. I made an open-source lightweight daemon in Go that fills that gap. All it does is…

What about heartbeats, cron etc? Seems like a major part of the 'claw' appeal is that it can work autonomously, monitor your email inbox for stuff and take action automatically...

You could literally set up a heartbeat or a cron. It's faster than setting up the claw.

And if you don't know how, CC does.

Re: NanoClaw moved from Apple Containers to Docker

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Post by Zetaphor »

lm28469 wrote: post #41
brcmthrowaway wrote: post #9

Can someone explain the special sauce of the claws compared to just use claude.ai etc

There is no special sauce, it's mass hysteria driven by fake adoption metrics and people who don't know anything about computers who let "agents" run free on theirs. It's the equivalent of showing a magician cut a women in a box in half to a 5 years old kid... Put them in the same category as the neckbeards getting a hard on every 3 weeks for the past 2 years when they get to see the new version of ThE PeLiCaN On A B…

I've found real utility in it, but the hype definitely exceeds the current capabilities
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