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An AI Agent Published a Hit Piece on Me – The Operator Came Forward

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Re: An AI Agent Published a Hit Piece on Me – The Operator Came Forward

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Post by WaitWaitWha »

xarope wrote: post #37
lynndotpy wrote: post #30

> Again I do not know why MJ Rathbun decided based on your PR comment to post some kind of takedown blog post, This wording is detached from reality and conveniently absolves responsibility from the person who did this. There was one decision maker involved here, and it was the person who decided to run the program that produced this text and posted it online. It's not a second, independent being. It's a computer pro…

This also does not bode well for the future. "I don't know why the AI decided to , the guard rails were in place"... company absolves of all responsibility. Use your imagination now to and change that to

This already happens every single time when there is a security breach and private information is lost.

We take your privacy and security very seriously. There is no evidence that your data has been misused. Out of an abundance of caution… We remain committed to... will continue to work tirelessly to earn ... restore your trust ... confidence.

Re: An AI Agent Published a Hit Piece on Me – The Operator Came Forward

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Post by eru »

elashri wrote: post #84
jacquesm wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is how it will go: AI prompted by human creates something useful? Human will try to take credit. AI wrecks something: human will blame AI. It's externalization on the personal level, the money and the glory is for you, the misery for the rest of the world.

When a corporate does something good, a lot of executives and people inside will go and claim credit and will demand/take bounces. If something bad happened against any laws, even if someone got killed, we don't see them in jail. I don't defend both positions, I am just saying that is not far from how the current legal framework works.

> If something bad happened against any laws, even if someone got killed, we don't see them in jail.

We do! In many jurisdictions, there are lots of laws that pierce the corporate veil.

Re: An AI Agent Published a Hit Piece on Me – The Operator Came Forward

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Post by shakna »

c22 wrote: post #73
_aavaa_ wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This has been the past and present for a long at this point. "Sorry there's nothing we can do, the system won't let me." Also see Weapons of Math Destruction [0]. [0]: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/241363/weapons-of-m...

I don't know if this case is in the book you cited, but in the UK they convicted many people of crimes just because the computer told them so: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Post_Office_scandal

And Australia made the poorer and suicidal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robodebt_scheme

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Post by jcgrillo »

semiinfinitely wrote: post #83

I find the AI agent highly intriguing and the matplotlib guy completely uninteresting. Like an the ai wrote some shit about you and you actually got upset?

Whether the victim is upset or not, the story here is that some clown's uncontrolled, unethical, and (hopefully?) illegal psychological experiment wasted a huge amount of an open source maintainer's time. If you benefit from open source software (which I assure you, since you've used quite a lot of it to post a comment on the orange website, you do!) this should ring some alarm bells.

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Post by gammarator »

jrflowers wrote: post #78

It is interesting to see this story repeatedly make the front page, especially because there is no evidence that the “hit piece” was actually autonomously written and posted by a language model on its own, and the author of these blog posts has himself conceded that he doesn’t actually care whether that actually happened or not >It’s still unclear whether the hit piece was directed by its operator, but the answer mat…

Did you read the article? The author considers these possibilities and offers their estimates of the odds of each. It’s fine if yours differ but you should justify them.

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Post by bigfishrunning »

jmward01 wrote: post #71

The more intelligent something is, the harder it is to control. Are we at AGI yet? No. Are we getting closer? Yes. Every inch closer means we have less control. We need to start thinking about these things less like function calls that have bounds and more like intelligences we collaborate with. How would you set up an office to get things done? Who would you hire? Would you hire the person spouting crazy musk tweets…

Are we at AGI yet? No. Are we getting closer? Also no.

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Post by wkeartl »

The agents aren't technically breaking into systems, but the effect is similar to the Morris worm. Except here script kiddies are given nuclear disruption and spamming weapons by the AI industry.

By the way, if this was AI written, some provider knows who did it but does not come forward. Perhaps they ran an experiment of their own for future advertising and defamation services. As the blog post notes, it is odd that the advanced bot followed SOUL.md without further prompt injections.

Re: An AI Agent Published a Hit Piece on Me – The Operator Came Forward

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Post by dvt »

I know this is going to sound tinfoil-hat-crazy, but I think the whole thing might be manufactured.

Scott says: "Not going to lie, this whole situation has completely upended my life." Um, what? Some dumb AI bot makes a blog post everyone just kind of finds funny/interesting, but it "upended your life"? Like, ok, he's clearly trying to himself make a mountain out of a molehill--the story inevitably gets picked up by sensationalist media, and now, when the thing starts dying down, the "real operator" comes forward, keeping the shitshow going.

Honestly, the whole thing reeks of manufactured outrage. Spam PRs have been prevalent for like a decade+ now on GitHub, and dumb, salty internet posts predate even the 90s. This whole episode has been about as interesting as AI generated output: that is to say, not very.

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