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Dinosaur Food: 100M year old foods we still eat today (2022)

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Reindeer lichen is not a moss (Wiki link), or even a Plantae...

Green algae, which are essentially being farmed by the fungus, are closely related to Plantae and are often included in the kingdom in the broad sense (Plantae sensu lato).

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Fun idea. At least one correction for the table: For wila/bryorii fremonti's age of 250mya they cite the "geologic history" of... moss. Wila is a lichen, which is primarily fungal with algal symbiotes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryoria_fremontii And even given an edible moss, the fact that moss existed 250mya would not imply that particular species existed "morphologically unchanged". The "reindeer lichen" entry…

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Re: Dinosaur Food: 100M year old foods we still eat today (2022)

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That make wonder, how many fossils there might be at total on earth, and with current trend, how much time would humanity should continue to survive before those remaining will approach zero, if fossil formation as a known rate.

> how many fossils there might be at total on earth The number is both incalculable and vague - is a shark tooth enough to count as a fossil? How about diatoms and other microfossils? Diatomaceous earth alone contains around 10^6-10^7 frustules (the shell of a diatom) per gram . If you count them as fossils then the lower bound is 10^18 fossils per year just in diatomaceous earth production (the fossils are ancient b…

> is a shark tooth enough to count as a fossil

No, but a fossil of a shark tooth counts as a fossil..

Re: Dinosaur Food: 100M year old foods we still eat today (2022)

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> Ginkgo has been around so long, it predates the dinosaurs! Isn't the first dinosaurs appeared like 400m years ago, but Ginkgo only 290m?

This is a confusion about what a "dinosaur" is. It is a particular branch of reptiles, not just an ancient one. The first dinosaurs were in the Triassic (roughly 240 mya). It was likely the Permian-Triassic extinction that opened the evolutionary niches for dinosaurs to evolve into (much like the Cretaceous extension event opened up the way for the mammals).

While there were creatures that looked like dinosaurs in the Permian period (298 mya) - creatures like the dimetrodon (the one with the sail on its back that you'd find next to dinosaurs in the museum - though the dimetrodon is of the branch that lead to mammals rather than reptiles) and early lizards and turtles - these aren't dinosaurs.

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> Yet, go back far enough and you'll find T-Rexes in the mix Afaik, T-Rex was never a direct ancestor of modern birds, including chicken. T-Rex and birds are theropod dinosaurs, but it was a very large and diverse group of animals.

But as soon as you've gone up from a chicken to the ancestor of a T-Rex, you do indeed find that T-Rexes are in the mix. They look different from what you'd normally think of as a T-Rex, in the same way that they also look different from what you'd normally think of as a chicken.

I'm trying to imagine this creature that is only somewhat different looking from a t rex and a chicken.

I get your meaning, just a funny phrasing.

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Hands up who has ever eaten anything from that list!

Fern fiddleheads aren't bad if you get them at the right time, but I wouldn't go out of my way to eat them.

Lots of ferns where I live, and I've put fiddleheads in a few stirfries for the novelty of it. But some (bracken especially) are somewhat toxic or carcinogenic. Probably fine if you prepare them properly and don't eat them too often, but be aware.

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Lotus root is pretty common in Chinese and Japanese cuisine. I've had it pickled and in a Sichuan dry pot. It's crunchy and takes on flavors pretty well.

We use it in cuisines from India, particularly from Tamil nadu, as well. Lotus root, seeds, the petals, pretty much all.

Can you name (in Tamil, but written in English) and describe the dishes in which those lotus parts are used? Interested.
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