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Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

#91

Post by augusto-moura »

dxbednarczyk wrote: post #53

Every time I've used Gemini models for anything besides code or agentic work they lean so far into the RLHF induced bold lettering and bullet point list barf that everything they output reads as if the model was talking _at_ me and not _with_ me. In my Openclaw experiment(s) and in the Gemini web UI, I've specifically added instructions to avoid this type of behavior, but it only seemed to obey those rules when I rem…

Gemini sounds less personal, but I think that is good. From my experience, the quality of response is much higher than ChatGPT or Grok, and it cites real sources. I want to have a mini-wikipedia response for my questions, not a friend's group chat response

Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

#92

Post by zokier »

> Last week, we released a major update to Gemini 3 Deep Think to solve modern challenges across science, research and engineering. Today, we’re releasing the upgraded core intelligence that makes those breakthroughs possible: Gemini 3.1 Pro.

So this is same but not same as Gemini 3 Deep Think? Keeping track of these different releases is getting pretty ridiculous.

Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

#93

Post by LZ_Khan »

biggest problem is that it's slow. also safety seems overtuned at the moment. getting some really silly refusals. everything else is pretty good.

Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

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Post by sergiotapia »

To use in OpenCode, you can update the models it has:

    opencode models --refresh
Then /models and choose Gemini 3.1 Pro

You can use the model through OpenCode Zen right away and avoid that Google UI craziness.

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It is quite pricey! Good speed and nailed all my tasks so far. For example:

    @app-api/app/controllers/api/availability_controller.rb 
    @.claude/skills/healthie/SKILL.md 

    Find Alex's id, and add him to the block list, leave a comment 
    that he has churned and left the company. we can't disable him 
    properly on the Healthie EMR for now so 
    this dumb block will be added as a quick fix.
Result was:

    29,392 tokens
    $0.27 spent
So relatively small task, hitting an API, using one of my skills, but a quarter. Pricey!

Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

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Post by jeffbee »

Relatedly, Gemini chat seems to be if not down then extremely slow.

ETA: They apparently wiped out everyone's chats (including mine). "Our engineering team has identified a background process that was causing the missing user conversation metadata and has successfully stopped the process to prevent further impact." El Mao.

Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

#98

Post by user34283 »

saberience wrote: post #31

I always try Gemini models when they get updated with their flashy new benchmark scores, but always end up using Claude and Codex again... I get the impression that Google is focusing on benchmarks but without assessing whether the models are actually improving in practical use-cases. I.e. they are benchmaxing Gemini is "in theory" smart, but in practice is much, much worse than Claude and Codex.

I exclusively use Gemini for Chat nowadays, and it's been great mostly. It's fast, it's good, and the app works reliably now. On top of that I got it for free with my Pixel phone.

For development I tend to use Antigravity with Sonnet 4.5, or Gemini Flash if it's about a GUI change in React. The layout and design of Gemini has been superior to Claude models in my opinion, at least at the time. Flash also works significantly faster.

And all of it is essentially free for now. I can even select Opus 4.6 in Antigravity, but I did not yet give it a try.

Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

#99

Post by NoahZuniga »

maxloh wrote: post #10

Gemini 3 seems to have a much smaller token output limit than 2.5. I used to use Gemini to restructure essays into an LLM-style format to improve readability, but the Gemini 3 release was a huge step back for that particular use case. Even when the model is explicitly instructed to pause due to insufficient tokens rather than generating an incomplete response, it still truncates the source text too aggressively, losi…

Output limit has consistently been 64k tokens (including 2.5 pro).

Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

#100

Post by alpineman »

Robdel12 wrote: post #86

I really want to use google’s models but they have the classic Google product problem that we all like to complain about. I am legit scared to login and use Gemini CLI because the last time I thought I was using my “free” account allowance via Google workspace. Ended up spending $10 before realizing it was API billing and the UI was so hard to figure out I gave up. I’m sure I can spend 20-40 more mins to sort this ou…

100% agreed. I wish someone would make a test for how reliably the LLMs follow tool use instructions etc. The pelicans are nice but not useful for me to judge how well a model will slot into a production stack.
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