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US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by diego_moita »

engineer_22 wrote: post #68
ivan_gammel wrote: post #61

If something looks like MITM, chances are it is MITM.

What's MITM?

The most effective way to intercept messages encrypted with public key cryptography: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-in-the-middle_attack

You can also call it "U.S. government spying on Europeans".

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by nomilk »

diego_moita wrote: post #90

Can it be used to help people in the Bible Belt watch porn?

I think the states themselves don't block porn, but require sites to verify users' ages, and sites would rather block access in those states than comply. (although not sure how they do that from a technical standpoint, based on IP geolocation, perhaps?)

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by LAC-Tech »

touwer wrote: post #83
mlh496 wrote: post #64

Sad that western Europe is pushing so hard for limits to free speech & privacy. I'm not surprised given their history, but it's sad nonetheless.

It's not sad. It's smart to ban hate speech, blatant lies and things like that. We know, we had the Nazis. Seems the US still has to learn a lesson or two, considering the current political situation. Hope it will not be as bad

This argument has always struck me as ridiculous. You think if only the Weimar Republic had had Hate Speech laws everything would have been fine?

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by nomilk »

Waterluvian wrote: post #41
schoen wrote: post #38

I just chaired a session at the FOCI conference earlier today, where people were talking about Internet censorship circumvention technologies and how to prevent governments from blocking them. I'd like to remind everyone that the U.S. government has been one the largest funders of that research for decades. Some of it is under USAGM (formerly BBG, the parent of RFE/RL) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Agen…

It’s a clear way to project soft power: make sure your message and culture can get through.

It might do that too, but access to information is just so utterly critical, and exponentially moreso in circumstances where government brutally cracks down on it, as we saw in Egypt during the Arab Spring and we're seeing in Iran presently.

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by perching_aix »

LAC-Tech wrote: post #93
touwer wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not sad. It's smart to ban hate speech, blatant lies and things like that. We know, we had the Nazis. Seems the US still has to learn a lesson or two, considering the current political situation. Hope it will not be as bad

This argument has always struck me as ridiculous. You think if only the Weimar Republic had had Hate Speech laws everything would have been fine?

Right, I guess the people there just magically all woke up one day hating the jews and voting in Hitler. Crazy how that happens. Why do political factions even spend money on campaigning? Those silly geese.

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by Aloisius »

alistairSH wrote: post #31

Won't those other nations just ban freedom.gov?

Nothing stops them from hosting it on fbi.gov, state.gov, etc.

It's one thing to block some random .gov site unused for anything else, it's another thing to block a domain used for, say, filing flight plans.

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by tjohns »

Aloisius wrote: post #96
alistairSH wrote: post #31

Won't those other nations just ban freedom.gov?

Nothing stops them from hosting it on fbi.gov, state.gov, etc. It's one thing to block some random .gov site unused for anything else, it's another thing to block a domain used for, say, filing flight plans.

Nit: If you're filing a flight plan, you do it with the country you're departing from. Even if you're piloting an aircraft departing into the US, it wouldn't have any effect on operations if you couldn't reach US websites. There's also several alternative ways for pilots to file flight plans outside of the web.

(The flight plans get passed between countries via AFTN/AMHS, which are dedicated telecommunications networks independent of the Internet.)

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by jasonvorhe »

nomilk wrote: post #94
Waterluvian wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a clear way to project soft power: make sure your message and culture can get through.

It might do that too , but access to information is just so utterly critical, and exponentially moreso in circumstances where government brutally cracks down on it, as we saw in Egypt during the Arab Spring and we're seeing in Iran presently.

Then again, Egypt was definitely driven by Western agitators, as was the case Iran recently. Iran probably got Russian tech to trace starlink users during the blackout which put a target on many Western assets in Iran. I'm not saying the Iran government didn't also kill and torture independent actors nor that I support state violence (against its citizens, in this case). Just saying that any government will use violence to stay in power and to ensure regime change doesn't happen outside of whatever system the state upholds.

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by reconnecting »

Last copy if from 2005 (2) according to the Web Archive. I like vote from 1998, if Internet Remain Tax Free (3).

1. https://web.archive.org/web/20050209024923/http://freedom.go...

2. https://web.archive.org/web/19981201060504/http://freedom.go...

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by nomilk »

reconnecting wrote: post #99

Last copy if from 2005 (2) according to the Web Archive. I like vote from 1998, if Internet Remain Tax Free (3). 1. https://web.archive.org/web/20050209024923/http://freedom.go... 2. https://web.archive.org/web/19981201060504/http://freedom.go...

And before that, looks like the domain was used to give updates from the House Majority Leader (e.g. things like voting info, social security updates, legislative changes, tax info etc).
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