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Re: Vercel's CEO offers to cover expenses of 'Jmail'

#91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/180504/hetzner-traffic-use...

I am not sure how one even gets 250TB/mo through a 1Gbps link. In any case, completely saturating your networking for the full month is outside most people's definition of "fair use".

Yeah but they still advertise with unlimited traffic. "All root servers have a dedicated 1 GBit uplink by default and with it unlimited traffic" https://docs.hetzner.com/robot/general/traffic/

Re: Vercel's CEO offers to cover expenses of 'Jmail'

#93

How does this work from an accounting perspective? They write off a bad debt, but the actual loss is likely multiple orders of magnitude less. Do they only get to write off up to the actuals?

Marketing probably, unless thew CEO pulls out his credit card

I don't really understand why he'd say he'd cover the costs personally... like, Vercel can just write it off, what's the significance of him paying for it?

Re: Vercel's CEO offers to cover expenses of 'Jmail'

#94
post #12

1) Covering the ~$50k hosting bill for Jmail on Vercel sounds generous, but a self-hosted VPS on Hetzner could serve the same purpose for ~€30/month, which is orders of magnitude cheaper and avoids vendor lock-in. 2) This comes as the CEO of Vercel, Guillermo Rauch, is already facing community backlash for publicly supporting Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu, a move that’s led to boycotts and migrations off the platf…

2nd point resonates with me, how come he wants to cover expenses, while being connected to Israeli PM and Epstein is connected to Israel through Ehud Barak. Isn't he going to ask for a "favor"?

Barak and bibi are political enemies (or at least we're when Barack was a relevant political figure) and besides that I haven't seen anything suggesting that his connection with bibi is more than the one meeting that was publicized.

Re: Vercel's CEO offers to cover expenses of 'Jmail'

#96
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Unreadable without an instagram/threads account

It's also dumb because the original interaction happened on X https://x.com/rauchg/status/2020984434338693622

Say what you want about Elon but X is where all the investors and tech execs are. Nobody is going to sign up for threads because they saw it link to a picture in a HN post

Re: Vercel's CEO offers to cover expenses of 'Jmail'

#98
post #23

Rather than linking to a threads post that is a screenshot of the x.com post with little to no commentary, we should be linking to the original x.com post https://x.com/rauchg/status/2020984434338693622

Considering that Twitter doesn't show the original post for non-logged-in users, the screenshot on Threads actually provides a better reading experience for most people!

Only if you already have a threads account. On mobile it makes you sign in

Re: Vercel's CEO offers to cover expenses of 'Jmail'

#99
post #81

I know there's a lot of questions why it's so expensive, but can I just extol the work done by Riley and team? Since the Epstein files dropped they've cloned gmail, gdrive, gmessages, amazon orders, transcribed court proceedings (yes with AI), fights, facebook, and imessages. It's an insane amount of work. They added the latest batch of files, photos, videos in like 2 weeks. And he's keeping up files that the justice…

This was there (way) before the last batch of files was released.

But your point stands, the amount of work they've put into this is remarkable.

Re: Vercel's CEO offers to cover expenses of 'Jmail'

#100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have it right, perhaps the original poster was referring to it in a more colloquial manner, in the sense that against 200 million in revenue, 50,000 and 30 are in the same ballpark?

> in the sense that against 200 million in revenue, 50,000 and 30 are in the same ballpark I don't understand how those are in the same ballpark? I thought saying something is in the same ballpark suggested that they are similar in scale, and the implication is that little-leauge does not play in the same ballpark as a NBA team. They are in the same category (baseball), but not at all the same level.

At a big enough scale, previously large differences are effectively 0.

50k/mo is 600,000/yr vs 360/yr at 30/mo. Thats existential for a 1MM/yr company. Neither register on a balance sheet for a 1B/yr company. They are both closer to 0 than being a major cost.

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