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Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

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Post by crabmusket »

trueno wrote: post #74
koolala wrote: post #26

Zulip actually looks pretty good if they made it a little sexier.

my team tried it for a couple weeks. couldn't stand the threaded "only see what's important" style of chat. it's undoubtedly our least fav part of microsoft teams---the channels and the threads, we all operate in the chat tab and the channels tab has been relegated to announcement posts no one reads. huge shame zulip can't just like... have a toggle for normal chat chronology/presentation. some people have gone way t…

> have a toggle for normal chat chronology/presentation

It does. https://zulip.com/help/general-chat-channels

But even without that, in a normal threaded channel, you can see all messages in all topics chronologically. IIRC that's the default view when you click a channel in the sidebar.

Here's an example: https://chat.zulip.org/#narrow/channel/138-user-questions the messages are grouped into runs of the same topic, but it's the whole channel.

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

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Post by small_scombrus »

dmonitor wrote: post #65

What's the point of the licensing on these chat servers charging per-user when self hosting?

A LOT of open source software offers features tiers with per user pricing even when self-hosting.

They do need to fund development, but SSO is almost always in the top two level pricings :(

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

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Post by voidUpdate »

user205738 wrote: post #73
TheChaplain wrote: post #56

What most people here seem to forget, is once a social platform gains traction and especially attention from the main masses, it undoubtedly require checks and balances. Predators, racism, gore, pedophilia, harassment, stalking and so on.. No matter how high you value security, these are matters that hurt real people today. If you attract the mainstream, you must deal with it.

I am in favor of kicking children, teenagers, and people with vulnerable minds and mental illnesses off the Internet. Then you won't have to make the decisions that most people suffer from.

Please don't kick people with mental illnesses off the internet. I barely have anyone to talk to as it is

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

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Post by pmdr »

Email + IRC (there are daemons that support chat history). Bouncers exist. Logging. This should be standard for OSS projects, not some private, unsearchable, data-mining platform.

This is what happens when we reach for convenience over openness.

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

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Post by [deleted] »

cookiengineer wrote: post #12
MarsIronPI wrote: post #5

I'm sad to see XMPP missing from this list. I wonder if the author was simply unaware of it or simply ignored it. IMO XMPP is technically superior to Matrix. It "only" needs a cross-platform high-quality, branded app àla Element. There's underlying protocol support for all the features: video/audio calls, group calls, threads and reactions. Maybe missing are custom emoji (I think?) and channel grouping (which is stil…

The problem with XMPP is that it's a suite of RFCs. It's like describing DNS, which is a conglomerate of RFCs so complex that it's unlikely to be implemented correctly and completely. XMPP is a design fail in that regard, because if you have to tell your chat contacts to download a different client that fulfills OMEMO or XEP-whatever specs, then yeah, ain't gonna happen for most people. (I am still a proponent of XMP…

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Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

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Post by VoidWhisperer »

numpad0 wrote: post #84
jszymborski wrote: post #6

This does miss a major feature of Discord and why, imo, it got such an huge following among gamers at first: voice and video chat. I've really had a hard time finding a Discord alternative that has the same kind of first-class voice and video chat support that Discord does. Back to Ventrilo and Mumble I guess /s

Why can't anybody just add a button to host a fully P2P WebRTC call? Like everyone did back when Slack didn't have anything, but in one click?

In the case of voice chat in servers used for gaming, my experience has been that the persistent channels for voice are actually kind of important, it removes any friction from dropping in and out of voice chat, and allows others to easily see 'hey, there is someone in this voice channel, maybe i should join'

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

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Post by fsflover »

aaravchen wrote: post #16

Ironically, Signal actually ranks a -1 for privacy in this use. Presumably you're already using Signal and getting mainstream contacts to start using it too. You probably have a basic profile that at least includes your real name, and might also have your picture. Maybe you're even one of the 7 people in the world that use the Stories feature in it. Well good news, now all of that is also unconditionally available to…

> Ironically, Signal actually ranks a -1 for privacy in this use

And it ranks near Discord in terms of removing the single point of failure.

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

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Post by Fire-Dragon-DoL »

Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #75
Elosha wrote: post #55

One of the main problems in suggesting Discord alternatives is that Discord itself is an amalgamation of several apps. For some a Discord alternative needs to be a voicecall, for others it‘s game streaming, and for others it‘s just a chat, a bulletinboard or newsgroup, while they never used the Voice features.

> We are also currently working on a privacy-focused alternative called Kloak, which is in its very early alpha stage. We would greatly appreciate your feedback on areas for improvement and any expectations you may have for the platform. Doesn't Matrix essentially satisfy all of them? Although the bulletinboard/newsgroup feature is something that I don't know but I feel as if that can be on matrix as well. Yes, I kno…

Discord is real time chat, I thought matrix was not? And discord comes for gaming, voice chat is a key feature
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