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Re: France's homegrown open source online office suite

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Post by InsideOutSanta » Sat, Feb 07, 2026, 3:40 PM UTC

whoamii wrote: post #58

okanat wrote: post #26

Okay this is nowhere near an "Office suite". It is a cloud collaboration suite with a glorified markdown editor and with some extra utilities around. Almost nobody buys stuff like Google Docs and Microsoft Office for this reason. From my experience using open-source collaboration groupware like Nextcloud, their solutions written in dynamic programming languages like PHP and Python are always woefully slow. Only thing…

Or maybe the solution must be one rooted in reducing taxes. Make investing extremely attractively, and stop relying on taxes to solve everything.

Having tax reduction as a primary goal is terrible for society, because taxes are the primary mechanism for converting money from rich people into services for everybody, particularly poor people.

Re: France's homegrown open source online office suite

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Post by drstewart » Sat, Feb 07, 2026, 3:40 PM UTC

YousefED wrote: post #70

Great to see this on HN. fyi, La Suite is an umbrella project built by DINUM in France that started several years ago, mainly to enable people in the public administration to use more independent tools. It's built in-house, often on top of other open source technologies. E.g.: Matrix powers chat and LiveKit powers Visio (which was recently featured on HN as well when they announced it's rolled out to replace Zoom / T…

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Re: France's homegrown open source online office suite

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Post by brigandish » Sat, Feb 07, 2026, 3:40 PM UTC

paulryanrogers wrote: post #84

whoamii wrote: post #58

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Or maybe the solution must be one rooted in reducing taxes. Make investing extremely attractively, and stop relying on taxes to solve everything.

Stop relying on ~investors~ [the business oligarchy] to solve everything

They're being asked, in this case, to solve a problem that business has already shown able to solve. More competition will also solve that oligarchy problem too.

Re: France's homegrown open source online office suite

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Post by KingOfCoders » Sat, Feb 07, 2026, 3:40 PM UTC

superze wrote: post #53

okanat wrote: post #26

Okay this is nowhere near an "Office suite". It is a cloud collaboration suite with a glorified markdown editor and with some extra utilities around. Almost nobody buys stuff like Google Docs and Microsoft Office for this reason. From my experience using open-source collaboration groupware like Nextcloud, their solutions written in dynamic programming languages like PHP and Python are always woefully slow. Only thing…

To make matters worse, they are using Django. I can't take the EU serious any more.

What has that to do with the EU?

Re: France's homegrown open source online office suite

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Post by skywal_l » Sat, Feb 07, 2026, 3:41 PM UTC

wtcactus wrote: post #83

coredev_ wrote: post #67

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I do not agree, I don't want EU to turn to US. Taxes should be on a level to support the welfare state.

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[2] You include pension, healthcare and education in this number. What would be the equivalent number in, say, the US if you were to include all this?

Re: France's homegrown open source online office suite

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Post by abtinf » Sat, Feb 07, 2026, 3:41 PM UTC

wtcactus wrote: post #83

coredev_ wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do not agree, I don't want EU to turn to US. Taxes should be on a level to support the welfare state.

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Your wiki link contains only a single random reference to that number, and the page it links to justify it doesn’t exist.

Re: France's homegrown open source online office suite

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Post by gryn » Sat, Feb 07, 2026, 3:42 PM UTC

999900000999 wrote: post #85

okanat wrote: post #26

Okay this is nowhere near an "Office suite". It is a cloud collaboration suite with a glorified markdown editor and with some extra utilities around. Almost nobody buys stuff like Google Docs and Microsoft Office for this reason. From my experience using open-source collaboration groupware like Nextcloud, their solutions written in dynamic programming languages like PHP and Python are always woefully slow. Only thing…

You don't need to raise taxes for this, literally just stop wasting money on licensees once the open source projects are ready. It's not a "let do it in 3 months" thing, this will take at least a decade.

> once the open source projects are ready.

so likely a decade or more of double spending in the meanwhile.

that's 2 election terms in France for context. Good luck making the political parties agree to this.

Re: France's homegrown open source online office suite

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Post by abtinf » Sat, Feb 07, 2026, 3:43 PM UTC

bigfudge wrote: post #55

admissionsguy wrote: post #37

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> solutions written in dynamic programming languages like PHP and Python are always woefully slow True as it may be that they are slow, I doubt it's caused by the use of dynamic programming languages. > The money should be secured immediately that cannot be touched by the upcoming governments. It should increase taxes. Independence has a price. We as Europeans should be ready to pay it. You do you, but increasing tax…

This is pre MAGA thinking. Investing in strategic industries that otherwise pose systemic risk to European economies wouldn’t be our first choice, but it’s now necessary.

It’s called mercantilism. It was thoroughly refuted hundreds of years ago.

Re: France's homegrown open source online office suite

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Post by ul5255 » Sat, Feb 07, 2026, 3:43 PM UTC

wtcactus wrote: post #83

coredev_ wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do not agree, I don't want EU to turn to US. Taxes should be on a level to support the welfare state.

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How did you arrive at 82% of salary being taken by taxes and social security? I read the Wikipedia article but I don’t how the numbers would add up to 82%.

Re: France's homegrown open source online office suite

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Post by ecshafer » Sat, Feb 07, 2026, 3:44 PM UTC

Nesco wrote: post #82

coredev_ wrote: post #67

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I do not agree, I don't want EU to turn to US. Taxes should be on a level to support the welfare state.

Which it can’t. There is nothing to disagree about. With current demographics projection no amount of taxes can cover welfare states

The welfare state can not exist in world where the government is against population growth. You cant have a robust welfare state and make through policy and propaganda 4+ child families rare. We need an exponential curve of population to maintain it, especialy when its at european levels. Mass immigration of uneducated people from low income countries doesnt cover the gap, especially when the government extends welfare to them.

This is all a fact.