Still needs to be trained on the final boss: dense cities with narrow streets.
Like London? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvctCbVEvwQ
The Waymo World Model
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#92Deepmind's Project Genie under the hood (pun intended). Deepmind & Waymo both Alphabet(Google) subsidiaries obv. https://deepmind.google/blog/genie-3-a-new-frontier-for-worl... Discussed here,eg. Genie 3: A new frontier for world models (1510 points, 497 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44798166 Project Genie: Experimenting with infinite, interactive worlds (673 points, 371 comments) https://news.ycombi…
Regardless of the corporate structure DeepMind is a lot more than just another Alphabet subsidiary at this point considering Demis Hassabis is leading all of Google AI.
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#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
The purpose of lidar is to prove error correction when you need it most in terms of camera accuracy loss. Humans do this, just in the sense of depth perception with both eyes.
(Always worth noting, human depth perception is not just based on stereoscopic vision, but also with focal distance, which is why so many people get simulator sickness from stereoscopic 3d VR)
My understanding is that contextual clues are a big part of it too. We see a the pitcher wind up and throw a baseball as us more than we stereoscopically track its progress from the mound to the plate.
More subtly, a lot of depth information comes from how big we expect things to be, since everyday life is full of things we intuitively know the sizes of, frames of reference in the form of people, vehicles, furniture, etc . This is why the forced perspective of theme park castles is so effective— our brains want to see those upper windows as full sized, so we see the thing as 2-3x bigger than it actually is. And in the other direction, a lot of buildings in Las Vegas are further away than they look because hotels like the Bellagio have large black boxes on them that group a 2x2 block of the actual room windows.
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#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
What would be an example city? Waymo just announced they're ramping up in Boston: https://waymo.com/blog/?modal=short-back-to-boston "we’re excited to continue effectively adapting to Boston’s cobblestones, narrow alleyways, roundabouts and turnpikes."
Any small city in Italy is going to be 10X more challenging than Boston
and the failure mode for some of them are steep drops off of cliffs
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#95Suddenly all this focus on world models by Deep mind starts to make sense. I've never really thought of Waymo as a robot in the same way as e.g. a Boston Dynamics humanoid, but of course it is a robot of sorts. Google/Alphabet are so vertically integrated for AI when you think about it. Compare what they're doing - their own power generation , their own silicon, their own data centers, search Gmail YouTube Gemini wor…
I always understood this to be why Tesla started working on humanoid robots
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#96The new frontier is manifestly the Phillipines.
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#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Humans do this, just in the sense of depth perception with both eyes. Humans do this with vibes and instincts, not just depth perception. When I can't see the lines on the road because there's too much slow, I can still interpret where they would be based on my familiarity with the roads and my implicit knowledge of how roads work, e.g. We do similar things for heavy rain or fog, although, sometimes those situation…
That’s the purpose of the neural networks
Yes and no - vibes and instincts isn't just thought, it's real senses. Humans have a lot of senses; dozens of them. Including balance, pain, sense of passage of time, and body orientation. Not all of these senses are represented in autonomous vehicles, and it's not really clear how the brain mashes together all these senses to make decisions.
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#98Still needs to be trained on the final boss: dense cities with narrow streets.
Does it, though? Maybe Dhaka will never get Waymo. The same way you can’t get advanced gene therapy there.
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#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
How expensive is their lidar system?
Cheaper every year.
Exactly.
Tesla told us their strategy was vertical integration and scale to drive down all input costs in manufacturing these vehicles...
...oh, except lidar, that's going to be expensive forever, for some reason?
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#100Interesting that this should come out right as lawmakers are beginning to understand that Waymos have overseas operators making major decisions. [*] https://futurism.com/advanced-transport/waymos-controlled-wo...
Completely false: https://x.com/i/status/2019213765506670738 Listen to the statement. The operators help when the Waymo is in a "difficult situation". Car drives itself 99% of the time, long tail of issues not yet fixed have a human intervene. Everyone is making out like it's an RC car, completely false.
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