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Young adults report lower life satisfaction in Sweden

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Re: Young adults report lower life satisfaction in Sweden

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Post by Gud »

gamblor956 wrote: post #77
weirdmantis69 wrote: post #32

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Sorry but it is true, almost entirely because of immigration. https://dragonflyintelligence.com/news/sweden-gang-bombings-... Wishing it away doesn't make it any less true.

Today i learned that Sweden is blaming immigrants for crimes committed by native born Swedes. Sweden has always had a fairly high crime rate. Immigrants didn't make it worse, but blaming them just made an existing problem more visible.

Sweden has not had a “fairly high crime rate”, this is a totally bogus statement.

And yes, 2nd generation immigrants are clearly over represented when it comes to crime, in Sweden and every wheee else.

In Sweden these issues are pronounced because of a ridiculous taboo that existed 1995-2020 to even discuss this problem.

But it turns out, if you import >1 million people from dysfunctional societies with entirely different cultures, while sticking your head in the sand, you will faces issues…

FWIW I am from Sweden, was born in 1986. These problems were obvious to me.

Re: Young adults report lower life satisfaction in Sweden

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Post by justacrow »

Gud wrote: post #91
gamblor956 wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Today i learned that Sweden is blaming immigrants for crimes committed by native born Swedes. Sweden has always had a fairly high crime rate. Immigrants didn't make it worse, but blaming them just made an existing problem more visible.

Sweden has not had a “fairly high crime rate”, this is a totally bogus statement. And yes, 2nd generation immigrants are clearly over represented when it comes to crime, in Sweden and every wheee else. In Sweden these issues are pronounced because of a ridiculous taboo that existed 1995-2020 to even discuss this problem. But it turns out, if you import >1 million people from dysfunctional societies with entirely diff…

Murder/homicide rate has been relatively consistent since 1990 https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/swe/swe...

Re: Young adults report lower life satisfaction in Sweden

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Post by duxup »

10xDev wrote: post #23

> In Sweden and other parts of the Western world, for example, recent findings point to a widening intergenerational gap where older adults report increasing well being while younger individuals experience notable declines So it is just a case of older people pulling the ladder up behind themselves.

I wonder about that.

I'm older now, work with a lot of great young peers. Their lifestyle though at that age is nothing like mine was. I worked through school (admittedly because I wasn't very good at school). My first real jobs just barely paid for everything. First apartment was pretty, spartan. Eating out or going out was infrequent. I liked sports, but when I did go to sporting events I was in the cheap seats on the cheap food promotion night.

That's not the lifestyle I see today. I don't blame younger folks for wanting it, it's shown to them everywhere. But the expectations are different and living them has financial consequences too.

Re: Young adults report lower life satisfaction in Sweden

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Post by Gud »

justacrow wrote: post #92
Gud wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sweden has not had a “fairly high crime rate”, this is a totally bogus statement. And yes, 2nd generation immigrants are clearly over represented when it comes to crime, in Sweden and every wheee else. In Sweden these issues are pronounced because of a ridiculous taboo that existed 1995-2020 to even discuss this problem. But it turns out, if you import >1 million people from dysfunctional societies with entirely diff…

Murder/homicide rate has been relatively consistent since 1990 https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/swe/swe...

I don’t know what you want me to do with this information.

Re: Young adults report lower life satisfaction in Sweden

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Post by 10xDev »

duxup wrote: post #93
10xDev wrote: post #23

> In Sweden and other parts of the Western world, for example, recent findings point to a widening intergenerational gap where older adults report increasing well being while younger individuals experience notable declines So it is just a case of older people pulling the ladder up behind themselves.

I wonder about that. I'm older now, work with a lot of great young peers. Their lifestyle though at that age is nothing like mine was. I worked through school (admittedly because I wasn't very good at school). My first real jobs just barely paid for everything. First apartment was pretty, spartan. Eating out or going out was infrequent. I liked sports, but when I did go to sporting events I was in the cheap seats on…

Ironically you are probably doing the thing you are accusing of young people doing which is taking a tiny sample size of a privileged group and assuming that's the norm.

Re: Young adults report lower life satisfaction in Sweden

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Post by duxup »

10xDev wrote: post #95
duxup wrote: post #93

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I wonder about that. I'm older now, work with a lot of great young peers. Their lifestyle though at that age is nothing like mine was. I worked through school (admittedly because I wasn't very good at school). My first real jobs just barely paid for everything. First apartment was pretty, spartan. Eating out or going out was infrequent. I liked sports, but when I did go to sporting events I was in the cheap seats on…

Ironically you are probably doing the thing you are accusing of young people doing which is taking a tiny sample size of a privileged group and assuming that's the norm.

We're all limited by our own pov.

Re: Young adults report lower life satisfaction in Sweden

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Post by _DeadFred_ »

palmotea wrote: post #83
darth_avocado wrote: post #79

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> It's is exceedingly unhelpful the blame an entire generation for the actions of a few. The unfortunate reality is that every generation has the power to change things if they want to. Shifting the blame to the actions of the few is an easy way to absolve yourself of the blame. Who allows the few to take those actions? How did those few come into power to be able to take those actions? Once the actions were taken, w…

> The unfortunate reality is that every generation has the power to change things if they want to. That's an illusion. I think what you're really doing is putting unreasonable demands on the entire baby boomer generation, then blaming them for not succeeding at an impossible task. I mean, seriously, you really think, say, some boomer factory worker in Ohio is to blame for not foreseeing the effects of some 1980-era p…

Yes. The effects of 1980s policy was talked about endlessly and everywhere, to the point childhood me understood the coming effects. I used to joke to my parents my generation was going to create old people homes attached to factories to make them pay us back.

Re: Young adults report lower life satisfaction in Sweden

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Post by _DeadFred_ »

SimianSci wrote: post #34
daseiner1 wrote: post #16

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meaningfully, this is equivalent to the parent commenter. "technology" I loathe the "pop critique" employment of the phrase, but this is definitionally late-stage capitalism. obviously capitalism is named as such because it is founded upon the concept of (private) capital. capital serves to lower margins and increase profitability. it has been remarkably successful and has immensely raised QoL for virtually the plane…

The answer is and always has been "paperclips." without human influence or directive, capital ceases to be become anything meaningful beyond [insert data type] at which point, it spreads like a cancer, ie: universal paperclips Capitalism is revered due to how it has significantly impacted the living standards of populations that participate in it. But increasing the living standards of populations was never the purpo…

Capitalism started with the East India Company. That is the real Capitalist world choice. We treat our strongly regulated society as 'Capitalism' for some reason (while the Capitalists tell us we need to get rid of all the regulation that keeps them in check).

Capitalism left to it's own authority creates payment in company scrip and company towns. Capitalism WANTS labor trapped with company script/company towns. Just because society outlawed that doesn't mean Capitalism isn't working in other ways to recreate that. What Capitalism does not want is empowered labor or labor lifted out from dire situations. Society is what has done that, not Capitalism.

Without strict government oversight Capitalism is horrible and gives horrible results to society at large. It just has done an incredible job of painting modern society as Capitalism and claiming all benefits of things that aren't inherently from Capitalism but from Government oversite.

Re: Young adults report lower life satisfaction in Sweden

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Post by gamblor956 »

Gud wrote: post #94
justacrow wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Murder/homicide rate has been relatively consistent since 1990 https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/swe/swe...

I don’t know what you want me to do with this information.

The point of the information was that Sweden has a relatively high crime rate. For point of comparison, most of of the L.A. area has a lower crime rate than Sweden.

The other point was that the arrival of immigrants did not increase the crime rate.

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