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Court orders restart of all US offshore wind power construction

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Re: Court orders restart of all US offshore wind power construction

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It's going to be dicey whether you can keep all the suppliers engaged with start / stops over 3 years.

From the piece: > Several of these projects are near completion and are likely to be done before any government appeal can be heard. Just gotta keep grinding towards success.

This will kill most future investment in offshore wind even if those projects are sucessful.

Re: Court orders restart of all US offshore wind power construction

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solar only runs during the day and when it is not cloudy, wind farms can run constantly with low weather impact multiple energy sources are what is important to make up for where solar falls short. sure solar is amazing, but it will never replace everything on its own

> solar only runs during the day and when it is not cloudy Solar PVC output directly and immediately correlates to sun landing on the panels. Solar thermal runs well into the evening, and its output is not impacted by the occasional cloud.

That’s only because of the thermal storage. The output of the solar collectors is massively impacted by clouds, also just by haze and aerosols, much more than PV, which is happy with diffuse and direct sunlight.

Then there’s the cost, which has not been good for CSP’s market share.

Re: Court orders restart of all US offshore wind power construction

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There's no regime change coming when those in power run the elections, have already cheated in the past, and know that they are now untouchable.

States run the elections.

The US president just today said that Republicans should "nationalize the voting" in future elections.

Re: Court orders restart of all US offshore wind power construction

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Solar and wind are good complements. Solar works during the day and best on clear, windless days. Wind blows best during the night and on cloudy, stormy days. Solar is best in summer and wind in winter. Wind also works better in some areas that don't have solar. UK has a lot of offshore wind, but less solar. The US Northeast has a lot of wind but lags behind on solar. Wind has dropped significantly in price over the…

I theory yes, but grid storage favors solar. Solar can be placed much closer to consumption, literally on the roof of the consumer. Wind exists in large farms away from cities. They are not perfect partners. The rich/old paticularly hate wind because they do not like looking at it. (The link to golf courses is not by accident. Wind farms and golf course tend to appear together due to them both gravitating towards are…

None of the points you were responding to are “in theory”.

You are proposing something that sounds like killing the US wind industry and then simply bringing it back later. That probably would work well, especially when projects have development lead times of several to many years.

Re: Court orders restart of all US offshore wind power construction

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posted this at ars forum: (it should be clear I think it was a stupid move by the WH, but I am trying to think what might have "informed" it) Steelmanning the risks, its the link to mainland as a weakness in supply chain of power, compared to onshore sources possibly. But, the construction is in close water, well inside the exclusive economic zone. You would think passage of a craft capable of causing a power shock w…

Even if there were legitimate concerns surrounding defense of the wind farms, it makes more sense to instead de-risk with redundancy elsewhere, which is increasingly cheap and quick to do thanks to the combo of solar+batteries. That’s what we should be doing anyway if AI data center energy requirements are to continue to increase.

Re: Court orders restart of all US offshore wind power construction

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If these projects ultimately end up canceled they’ll be the largest “mostly done” infrastructure projects to be cancelled. A huge waste. And a monument to US incompetency.

> incompetency "corruption"

spite of one man child

Re: Court orders restart of all US offshore wind power construction

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It's not a linear relationship where you trade one for the other. You don't just get a more competent government by giving up freedoms.

There is a relationship here. It is not a perfect one, but it is real, and pretending otherwise just avoids the tradeoff. Take California’s high speed rail. Every individual has the right to object. No one wants an eyesore in their backyard. Everyone gets a hearing. Everyone gets a lawsuit. Everyone gets a veto in practice, if not in theory. The result is predictable. I will never see a functioning high speed rail sy…

What do N Korea vs S Korea or Poland vs Belarus tell us about the forms of government and their relative outcomes?

Re: Court orders restart of all US offshore wind power construction

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From the piece: > Several of these projects are near completion and are likely to be done before any government appeal can be heard. Just gotta keep grinding towards success.

This will kill most future investment in offshore wind even if those projects are sucessful.

It’ll come back when there is more policy certainty, China isn’t going anywhere and they’re going to keep building. Luckily, there is manufacturing supply chain safely outside the US. China is roughly a third of global manufacturing capacity after all.

Don’t think in years, think in half decades and decades. This too shall pass.

https://ember-energy.org/data/china-cleantech-exports-data-e...

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