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Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Post by bartread »

zkmon wrote: post #21

Too little, too late.

Yeah, and you know how to know this is true?

This story has already dropped three quarters of the way down the front page and has a grand total of 72 points. Topics that people really give a damn about on this site often garner 1000 - 2000 points and stay on the front page for 36 hours or more, but nobody cares about this.

They’ve already lost the HN audience and there’s certainly an element of where we go everybody else eventually follows, because I suspect we skew influential in the companies we work for.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Post by maratc »

withinboredom wrote: post #34
pixelpoet wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Office brand is literally gone, they renamed it to "Microsoft Copilot 365 app". Check https://office.com

Copilot is such a dumb brand name. At least to me, it confers that I need to be a pilot and that it requires training to be one. I just want to be productive, not fly a plane.

How about "Borland Sidekick" for a brand name?

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Post by mlnj »

pixelpoet wrote: post #29
dartharva wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know about Windows, but it will take a lot more enshittification than that to burn down the Office brand. Excel alone carries it to dominance.

The Office brand is literally gone, they renamed it to "Microsoft Copilot 365 app". Check https://office.com

The only mention of the word 'Office' on that page is

'The Microsoft Office app is now Microsoft 365 Copilot'

It is really sad to see MS kill such a behemoth brand for nothing.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Post by 1718627440 »

pixelpoet wrote: post #29
dartharva wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know about Windows, but it will take a lot more enshittification than that to burn down the Office brand. Excel alone carries it to dominance.

The Office brand is literally gone, they renamed it to "Microsoft Copilot 365 app". Check https://office.com

Except that nobody cares. The Office brand is too large too get killed by Microsoft.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Post by tialaramex »

everdrive wrote: post #54
pixelpoet wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Office brand is literally gone, they renamed it to "Microsoft Copilot 365 app". Check https://office.com

I'm shocked they didn't stash "defender" in there somehow. I used to joke that one name they'd rebrand the start menu as "defender for application launching" and rebrand the power button as "defender for powering on."

Microsoft's brands are historical markers. There's an era when a new Microsoft product is .NET, and an era when it's Azure, and one where it's 365 etc. If you have a new Doodad, if you say "Microsoft Doodad" the other divisions hate you because that's not their thing. Brand it "Hot Brand Name Unrelated Word" and now you're part of the family even though you have no product purpose and your customers will forever be confused.

"Azure Active Directory" wasn't Active Directory, and who'd have guessed a year ago that "365 Co-pilot" would mean the Office applications in 2026. Yes really.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Post by markus_zhang »

As a side topic, I wish we still had something like Windows 3.1/95/98, that has a touch of personal usage (focuses on multimedia/gaming instead of business/server).

Do you still remember Microsoft Home? My first Windows gaming experience, other than Minesweeper and Solitaire ofc, was the Fury3 demo, which contains only one level from the licensed game, on a Windows 95 Home Entertainment CD. There were also Encarta and other Home products that never took off. The only problem is frequent BSOD, which was solved by the NT kernel, so I guess XP was the pinnacle of personal computing OS, although it does fail some DOS and earlier Windows games.

Do we still have a compatible OS nowadays? Linux is mostly for server and business, and while it has gained some popularity as a desktop OS, it definitely still have a long way to reach the intimacy that early Windows offered, and I doubt it will ever regress back to a "Home computer OS". But maybe we can build on top of that. I mean we can build software on top of Linux that provides the friendly vibe.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Post by a1o »

major505 wrote: post #59

Too be honest, thres is too much wrong with win 11 to save it at this point. Is not only AI bullshit in my notepad. The excess adds, intrusive online stuff, terriblee performance for basic tasks like the File Explorer or even opening a menu. Making everything a damn web page... One clear example is outlook. Talk wathever you want, outlook, is the indistry standart for e-mail. And while not perfect it was very usefull…

It’s amazing how much worse outlook got and how fast it got so much worse. It also can’t handle screens with different scales, it sometimes inexplicably fails to render an email, printing can produce files of different size - using the web version produces smaller pdfs than the desktop version. I miss thunderbird a lot since the company forced Outlook use and also removed the classic outlook option - or maybe it only has the weird white space version now.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

QuadmasterXLII wrote: post #3
Shank wrote: post #2

> It appears this moment of pushback has resonated with internal teams: According to people familiar with Microsoft’s plans, the company is now reevaluating its AI strategy on Windows 11 and plans changes to streamline or even remove certain AI features where they don’t make sense. Obviously this is a complete failure of governance. The very first thing they should have considered was whether or not these features ma…

The pain of ripping this all out properly is likely too high. Ever since they got the delicious taste of white-labelling chromium instead of fixing ie, another way has been looking better and better: windows 13 or 14 will just be a linux distro

> another way has been looking better and better: windows 13 or 14 will just be a linux distro

They’d have nothing to gain from doing this, NT kernel isn’t the problem with windows.

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