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We (As a Society) Peaked in the 90s

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Re: We (As a Society) Peaked in the 90s

#91

Agree, Internet/bbs, CDs, 3d polygon based games. Programming, excitement for the future.

as someone who used BBS/Fidonet in 90s I am certainly not missing them over websites/forums/Reddit, same goes for CDs vs MP3/streaming (which is just another source for MP3)

I think we would be fine even know if we just straight up stopped using all social media

Re: We (As a Society) Peaked in the 90s

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post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Barely any conflict I feel like you might not be paying much attention.

The last century was characterized by two mega wars that killed tens of millions and social changes / revolutions that killed tens of millions as well. This century is off to an AMAZING start. Perhaps unprecedentedly good in world history. And of course before this century, resource scarcity, lack of modern medicine, etc meant a grueling life of farmwork, living in a hovel, and being sent off to random wars. Now peop…

Not sure how the world wars would have worked had the participating nations been nuclear capable. This invention is quite significant.

Re: We (As a Society) Peaked in the 90s

#93

This Douglas Adams quote is still undefeated: 1. Anything that is in the world when you’re born is normal and ordinary and is just a natural part of the way the world works. 2. Anything that's invented between when you’re fifteen and thirty-five is new and exciting and revolutionary and you can probably get a career in it. 3. Anything invented after you're thirty-five is against the natural order of things.

Except I was there during phase 1 and 2, and still feel everything's fallen apart. I saw what it was, what it was becoming, and what it's become.

This isn't nostalgia or granpa shouting at clouds, many important things are objectively worse now.

Re: We (As a Society) Peaked in the 90s

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post #4

A thought I often have - older millennials and younger Gen X have a unique obligation to fix certain parts of society because we are the youngest generation old enough to remember how to operate in and enjoy a world that wasn't A/B tested into a gray, lifeless background hum.

Agreed, but good luck with that.

When you try to highlight how some things could be better by going "backwards", you're accused of wearing rose-tinted glasses, or being out of touch.

Re: We (As a Society) Peaked in the 90s

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post #3

The author is in their forties or fifties. They’re forgetting one important thing; they were young and the world was in front of them.

The problem is that they are both correct _and_ they were young back then. What happens then, is their arguments are dismissed because of the latter.

Another issue is it's difficult to explain something to somebody that has no frame of reference of experience of it. He talks of "delayed gratification" a few times. Try explaining how not getting everything you want is good for you to anyone under 40.

Re: We (As a Society) Peaked in the 90s

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post #93

This Douglas Adams quote is still undefeated: 1. Anything that is in the world when you’re born is normal and ordinary and is just a natural part of the way the world works. 2. Anything that's invented between when you’re fifteen and thirty-five is new and exciting and revolutionary and you can probably get a career in it. 3. Anything invented after you're thirty-five is against the natural order of things.

Except I was there during phase 1 and 2, and still feel everything's fallen apart. I saw what it was, what it was becoming, and what it's become. This isn't nostalgia or granpa shouting at clouds, many important things are objectively worse now.

you imply you're in phase 3 now, having been through phases 1 and 2, and that is the phase where everything feels falling apart.

Re: We (As a Society) Peaked in the 90s

#97
What can we do about it? Genuinely want to know your thoughts.

I'm in agreement with everything he says, but I've struggled to see eye to eye with anyone not in my age group. How can we have a constructive conversation about this, come to a consensus that things are not okay now, and move forward?

Re: We (As a Society) Peaked in the 90s

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post #73
post #4

A thought I often have - older millennials and younger Gen X have a unique obligation to fix certain parts of society because we are the youngest generation old enough to remember how to operate in and enjoy a world that wasn't A/B tested into a gray, lifeless background hum.

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Explain

Re: We (As a Society) Peaked in the 90s

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post #5
post #3

The author is in their forties or fifties. They’re forgetting one important thing; they were young and the world was in front of them.

Every single 'it was better in the X0s' is actually 'i want a tween/young teenager in the X0s'. Everything else is post hoc rationalization I'm jealous of my kids since they are so much better off in every way

Both can be true. We can be wearing nostalgia goggles and things can actually be worse now.

Re: We (As a Society) Peaked in the 90s

#100
post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Barely any conflict I feel like you might not be paying much attention.

The last century was characterized by two mega wars that killed tens of millions and social changes / revolutions that killed tens of millions as well. This century is off to an AMAZING start. Perhaps unprecedentedly good in world history. And of course before this century, resource scarcity, lack of modern medicine, etc meant a grueling life of farmwork, living in a hovel, and being sent off to random wars. Now peop…

We haven't even got to the same point in the last century where the big war happened, and so far it looks like when we do get to that part of the century, we'll be doing the same thing.

Having medicine is good though. I don't think anyone's arguing that. "Things are worse" doesn't mean "everything is worse"

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