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Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

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Post by jodrellblank »

dangus wrote: post #20
marekful wrote: post #2

It's so pathetic that people actually put up with this. There are so many ways to stop that tracking from working and no, your boss doesn't have the right to track you.

Does UPS have the right to know the location of its drivers? Of course it does. I don’t know that we can draw broad conclusions about worker rights on this issue. My company probably DOES need to know that I’m not taking company information to certain locations like overseas if I work in certain industries like if I am in healthcare covered by HIPAA and I’m handling PHI. Hyperbolic example, but if I’m taking a teams…

> "Of course it does."

Of course it doesn't. (What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence).

> "there isn’t a strong argument that it should exist."

Did you google for anything on this topic? Did you set a timer for 5 minutes and spend some time trying hard to think of one? Did you look at other countries and their regulations (e.g. Germany?[1]) and why they ended up that way?

[1] https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/employee-monitoring-in-ger...

Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

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Post by [deleted] »

dangus wrote: post #20
marekful wrote: post #2

It's so pathetic that people actually put up with this. There are so many ways to stop that tracking from working and no, your boss doesn't have the right to track you.

Does UPS have the right to know the location of its drivers? Of course it does. I don’t know that we can draw broad conclusions about worker rights on this issue. My company probably DOES need to know that I’m not taking company information to certain locations like overseas if I work in certain industries like if I am in healthcare covered by HIPAA and I’m handling PHI. Hyperbolic example, but if I’m taking a teams…

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Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

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Post by kstrauser »

triceratops wrote: post #25

FTA > Remember when you could text Dave from the office to turn your PC on because you were stuck in traffic? I honestly don't. This was a thing? Why? > So if you decide to take a "working lunch" and connect to "Starbucks_Guest_WiFi", your boss sees it instantly. I would have a lot of fun with "creative" names for my Wi-fi network.

"Huh, looks like Ted's working from 'Kiss My Ass, Stalker' again."

Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

#97

Post by pousada »

seanclayton wrote: post #84
pepperoni_pizza wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Plus employees will have to opt in? If a company policy says you have to opt in, not opting in means you're breaching the policy and might get fired. Entirely legal in at-will employment places, but potentially not in places with better worker protections. Saying that, I just got announcement from my employer they will not be turning it on for now.

Employees need to join a union

Personally I wouldn’t even start working for an organisation that uses Microsoft …

Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

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Post by bri3d »

zamadatix wrote: post #89
bri3d wrote: post #11

Here's the actual "roadmap" feature (scroll to the bottom where the filtered list is): https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/roadmap?search... The actual feature brief is: "When users connect to their organization's Wi-Fi, Teams will soon be able to automatically update their work location to reflect the building they're working from. This feature will be off by default. Tenant admins will decide whether to e…

I was wondering if there was more Microsoft has said/used to say about this feature because it leaves a gap between "connect to your organizations Wi-Fi" and "will show you're connected to Starbucks/Home and what that SSID is". I followed several articles and the tree I found seems to end with this Neowin article https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-delays-controversial-l... but it doesn't actully clear up the sourc…

Yeah, I couldn't find any sources that weren't rage-bait either.

Honestly, to me the feature seems so incredibly low-functionality that I'm surprised they're pushing it forward after all of the controversy it's generated. Like, sure, it might be nice to see if someone was out to lunch or in Building 17 or whatever without needing to message them, but at the cost of the whole "teams is spying on you" narrative and yuck-factor it pushes, I'm surprised they haven't pushed harder on either clarifying the functionality or just pulling it.

Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

#99

Post by bnchrch »

I truly believe our industry needs to elevate our own anti-awards, like others have (Razzies, Worst Game of the Year, etc.) to shame those responsible for building the regressive tech that corporations and governments push.

There's already the Big Brother Awards [0] and EFF's smattering of Worst Government and Worst Data Breach articles each year. [1]

But I think we need more.

Personally I would love to nominate:

- Mark Stefik and Brad Cox for their contributions to DRM

- Erick Lavoie for his work on Wildvine DRM

- Vern Paxson for his contributions to DPI (Deep Packet Inspection)

- Latanya Sweeney and Alexandre de Montjoye for their contributions to re-identification of anonymized data

- Steven J. Murdoch and George Danezis for their work on de-anonymization attacks

[0]http://www.bigbrotherawards.org/

[1]https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/12/breachies-2025-worst-w...

Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

#100

Post by SoftTalker »

swgeek wrote: post #70

If they really care every large company already knows what building you are in just by tracking your badge info. This was transparent: I could check my own badge history anytime. What this does is track when you are not working in the office.

Still easy to do if you have a badge system at work. No badge swipes today yet you've done work (emails, PRs, etc)? You're not working at the office.
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